Wow much better race for Hasay this week than last. 2:42 at the 1000 mark alone is much better than last week and she didn't blow up too badly. I think she'll blow away her 15:3whatever PR.
Wow much better race for Hasay this week than last. 2:42 at the 1000 mark alone is much better than last week and she didn't blow up too badly. I think she'll blow away her 15:3whatever PR.
agreed...impressive by all!
cant for tomorrow to watch the video
Rojo's lofty perch wrote:
rojo wrote:No way they beat a dopers time.
Now Cain might get the world junior mark but not 4:20.5.
Rojo, she wasn't doping, but please don't let that stop you from being a pretentious know-it-all.
I called Mary Slaney a doper. Did I say she was doping at the time? No I did not.
I do know she has according to the rules of our sport been found guilty of a major doping offense. Hence she should be called "a doper."
So I wasn't being a know it all. I was just being factual.
YOu can believe she isn't. That's fine. There are felons innocent in prison. I'm aware of that.
-Rojo
PS. I personally believe all career times for dopers convicted of 2+ years bans should be erased but that's best if left for another day.
rojo wrote:
HEY J wrote:at what point are we not wondering how a record that stood for 20 year can all of the sudden be attacked by 3 people on the same team?
Then 239 is 430 mile equivalent what happened to the 6 second rule Horwill talked about for women
lets see you run 112 in the 500 the next week you run 239? the hold on folks you do repeat 800 400 workouts where you finish at the same speed as when you raced full speed last week?
really? really and this week you are going to break the world junior record of 424 which is 2:39 then 600 in 145? right after it? NO WAY !!!!!!!
There is no chance the 4:20 goes down. I posted this in another thread and will do it here:
What are you talking about?
The women's mile record isn't a record attempt in my mind.
There is basically zero chance the American women's mile record goes down. It's basically false advertising to pump these as 6 AR record attempts. Anyone remember the women's 1k record attempt - 5+ seconds off.
I'll give out $100 if it does go down.
No way they beat a dopers time.
Now Cain might get the world junior mark but not 4:20.5.
I did agree it wasn't going down, but I'm not 100% sold here on the logic of it not going down because of it being a dopers time.
4:20 is only 4:02 mid pace for 1500m. That's not an unrealistic time for 1500 at all, and an extra 109m wouldn't slow someone down THAT much.
A woman in 4:00 shape or just under should be able to grab the indoor mile AR. That's still outside of dopers only territory.
agip wrote:
you have to take Cain ftw
I am really admiring Hasay here - she really seems to love running and racing - she's all 'any race, any time' I doubt she is much of a miler, but there she is.
Probably will be a challenge for al sal to keep her from tiring by summer
Hasey is running better these days too. It seemed like her college career was pretty average for her running some nice races at big meets but never running a great time
rojo wrote:
I called Mary Slaney a doper. Did I say she was doping at the time? No I did not.
I do know she has according to the rules of our sport been found guilty of a major doping offense. Hence she should be called "a doper."
But didn't you say that there's no way they run a doper's time, implying that there's no way they could run as fast as somebody who was using PEDs to run that time? Or do you think that she had simply halted doping but still maintained the benefits to run so fast?
I'm confused
official results?
Hardloper wrote:
2:42 at the 1000 mark alone is much better than last week and she didn't blow up too badly.
Let's say a top U.S. miler led 1000 meters into a race and split 2:22.5, on pace for a 3:49 and change. He then goes on to get passed by two people, one of whom wins in 3:52 and one of whim nips the guy in question at the line, and winds up running 3:56. That's a solid time. Would you really say that he didn't blow up?
If anything Hasay demonstrated that she can run a great mile if she does it the right way, like Rupp has. But this was not that great mile, as fun as it may have been for people to watch it.
yeah, but Hasay is now a 10K runner...
predictions for what she'll run outdoor?
under 15:30 and under 31:30?
splits:
Splits For Mary Cain In Her 4:24.11 Mile
The first split is for 209.344 meters, the rest for the 200-meter laps:
33.8
32.8 [66.6]
33.2 [1:39.8]
33.1 [2:12.9]
32.6 [2:45.5]
33.0 [3:18.5]
33.5 [3:52.0]
32.1
Roughly speaking, that would be 440s of
65.5
66.6 [1:12.1]
65.9 [3:18.0]
66.1
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index.php/display-article?arId=95407
Time predictions for each of these ladies?
Race is over: Mary Cain Just Misses World Indoor Junior Mile Mark By .01 - Sets New American Junior Mark of 4:24.11
In only six months working with Alberto, its eye opening to see the improvement in Hasay's stride and form. Very impressive. I seriously think she'll be able to put down a sub 15:05 and a sub 31:20 in outdoors.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeyVO1YCIAEY7Z9.jpg
Looks like Jordan is getting taller? Mary is supposed to be 5'7" and Jordan is 5'4. From this photo it looks like an inch difference.
She is an absolute metronome!
Sorry, you can see the photo on the Oregon Project twitter web. As an old man, my computer skills are not up to speed. I'm trying however.
http://www.lancertiming.com/results/winter14/BUTerrier/140124F011.htmGUH wrote:
official results?
Section 1
1 Cain, Mary Nike Oregon Project 4:24.11
2 D'Agostino, Abbey Dartmouth 4:28.31
3 Hasay, Jordan Nike Oregon Project 4:28.37
4 Browning, Charlotte Ragged Mount 4:33.80
-- Galligan, Rose-Anne Unat-Nike Or DNF
-- Herrick, Stephanie Cptc New Balance DNF
Section 2
1 Nagel, Laura Providence 4:36.89
2 Burne, Olivia Stony Brook 4:38.10
3 Sisson, Emily Providence 4:40.00
4 Mania, Brigitte Unattached 4:46.73
5 Renfer, Molly Harvard 4:47.49
6 Giordano, Dana Dartmouth 4:47.64
7 Sullivan, Julia American 4:50.71
8 van den Heuvel, Louise Mit 4:52.35
9 O'Keefe, Katherine Boston College 4:54.42
10 Long, Nikki Boston U. 4:54.78
11 Fahey, Caitlin New Balance Boston 5:00.98
12 Sullivan, Meggie Cptc New Balance 5:05.82
The post you were responding to talked about her breaking the World Junior Record, not the world record, and she came within .01 of that. Very nice performance, 4 second indoor mile pr, a second faster than the college record!, another American junior record, and very nice progress from the 2:39 last time out. She may just be ready to break 4:20 this year, but not indoors.
rojo wrote:...
-Rojo
PS. I personally believe all career times for dopers convicted of 2+ years bans should be erased but that's best if left for another day.
Yes, like the guy who retired and then they still sent someone or he did not update him on his whereabouts so they banned him for 2 years. Now he should lose all of his marks, right? What would has no false positives and no administrative or procedural errors and where is ti always costless to correct or fight them.
Looks like Cain hit just about 4:08 for 1500. That would lower her indoor AJR by 3 seconds. Did they time her at the 1500 mark?
uwmeet wrote:
splits:
Splits For Mary Cain In Her 4:24.11 Mile
The first split is for 209.344 meters, the rest for the 200-meter laps:
33.8
32.8 [66.6]
33.2 [1:39.8]
33.1 [2:12.9]
32.6 [2:45.5]
33.0 [3:18.5]
33.5 [3:52.0]
32.1
Roughly speaking, that would be 440s of
65.5
66.6 [1:12.1]
65.9 [3:18.0]
66.1
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/index.php/display-article?arId=95407
who was may Deckers coach when she got busted ?