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I am seeing Meyers soon. Hope I can solve the same pain all of you have described. It's been two years for me.
I had the surgery performed by Dr. Meyers - both adductors, double rectus abdominis release. It did not work and I am back to where I was pre-surgery. Has anyone else been in this position? Not sure where to turn.
Man, this is the first I have heard of anything that relates to my condition. It started over a year ago with a what I thought was a strained psoas muscle. I tried to run through it but began getting really sore in the lower right abdomen and groin and also my right inner thigh. Took 3 weeks off, started running again, raced once without any pain, then could barely finish a race for the rest of the season without ending up in extreme pain from low on my right side abs to as high up as my rib-cage. I even had to stop doing ab workouts for 9 months. A friend was trying to diagnose my problem, and had me lay on the ground, knees bent, feet on the floor. He held my knees about a foot and a half apart and had me try to push my legs together. Right away there was a loud pop that came from my right pubic area. It hurt really bad, but made the area feel better. He said my pubic bone was being constantly pulled out of place by the psoas being injured. For months every time before I ran I would pop it back in place, but I think the problem is more than just that. I'm frustrated as hell because time off doesn't do a damn thing. Anyone know any good doctors in Oregon who could help me? Any advice at all would really be appreciated...Thanks.
That sounds like AP; chk my note on second page of these threads - very much like my presentation.
Meyer's had done procedure now about 3500+ times and he's training guys; I think there is someone capable in LA. In you neck of woods, check out the indoor soccer league MD's. AP & OP is rampant cause of astrotuff & cutting...
Be forwarned - even after surgery some abdominal complaints can continue and the rehab can take many months of patience...
My surgeon, unable to feel a hernia diagnosed a tear or split in the conjoined tendon, he said give it a big rest for 6 weeks or he would repair it surgically, with quick recovery time. Has anyone had this particular version of sportsmans hernia and what happened with it?
hi- I have been having this annoying groin pain and have seen 3 urologists the last one after treating me with every type of antibiotic though all urine tests were clean finally said I may have a slight hernia. I went to a surgeon who of course said turn and cough she then referred me to someone else. Well I blew her off and found a GREAT guy who brought up this sportsman's groin without me mentioning it. I am going for a Special type of MRI in a few weeks I hope it shows something. If not I think he is open to exploratory surgery. I am in the US and I think this guy can do it. 1.5 years of phantom annoying pain. Yes I can walk but the pain causes muscle spasms in hamstring and lower ab and groin. Sciatica was also ruled out through an MRI. anyway I hope I can find some relief and I feel for every guy out there going through this it is so frustrating.
I'm in the same boat. It sucks. Bi-lateral, going for just over a year now. Only seems to be affected when I try to do a long run or bump up my mileage. No running all winter, but telemark skied 180 days with no problem whatsoever. Started up training again this spring, low mileage weeks or shorter races (up to 12k), dull ache, but not the end of the world. Anything over 45 minutes and the pain rises on a direct curve. Signed up for 2 marathons this fall, went long a couple days ago to see what I was looking at (if it was even possible, w/ no meds masking), ran 17-18 miles all on trails for 2:25, wasn't pretty. Frustrating thing is rest of the body felt strong, but the groins were severely hurting. No health insurance, dreams of ultimately running ultras, i think the marathons are off the board, I have to get this addressed. Very helpful contacts and insight I've read so far, i'm in Northern Cal and Western NY parts of the year, if anyone has any ideas, willing to drive down to Philly this fall to take care of this. Again, thanks, good luck!
So, not to beat a dead horse, but if I want to address this, what would people recommend the proper steps to go through. Bone scan/MRI, if positive, try and set up an appt with Dr Myers. I feel pretty strong that this is ultimately where I will end up. It doesn't sound like I have it as bad as some cases, and I do understand that many cases differ as its a complex area, but I have gone through long periods with a foot injury where I was forced to rest 12 wks, and the injury remains. But i'd put big money on the fact that I have some version of a sport hernia, and a bi-lat one at that, though I wish it wasnt the case. Again, any advice, info appreciated.
I'm 2 weeks out from Dr. Meyers. I am slowly recovering (pelvic floor repair and addductor release)and hope this solves my problem. I came from out of state and he required a pelvic MRI before I arrived. (Note well that only 12% of people with athletic pubalgia have a positive MRI). The diagnosis is ususally AP symptoms matched with an MRI that is negative for other possiblities. He diagnosed it one day and I had surgery the next. He can set it up like this if you travel from out of state. Call him and you can get plenty of info.
Dude - if you are tele'ing 180 days a year, you better think hard before having William go in and muck around; check my post/link to a post on 'pubalgia' on pg. 2. This is *not* about optimizing your athletic performance...
The surgery is a godsend for many - but quite a trial for a few. Check recent threads on 'hernia' for some of Dr. Meyers patients not doing so well and trading notes...
Right on guys. I'm not jumping into anything yet, just eager to check out the possibilities. Ideally, in a perfect world, I could return to marathon and ultra training, but I do understand that this quite simply might be the end of this for me. I make a livelihood skiing, and the groin doesn't seem to act up for some reason when I tele, thankfully. That's the primary thing, I might just have to accept this, instead of getting greedy, and losing two passions. But, again, any follow up recovery success and or failure stories are much appreciated. Thanx again.
hey. ive been looking around for a soccer forum about sports hernia but havnt found anything. i play a competitve level of soccer and when the pain started it was just groin pain. i kept playing on it thinking that it was just a strained groin and i dont recall having any pain in the lower abdomin early on. it wasnt until after 3 weeks of intense groin pain that i noticed the pain in my right lower abdomin. i decided to rest it until my groin pain went away and that took 5 weeks. although my groin felt fine my lower abdomin still had pain when doing side crunches and kicking a soccer ball. as soon as i returned to soccer my groin pain returned.
so i ask u this. is it common that at first the abnomin pain may not exist or might not be noticable until the groin pain starts to subside?
Most commonly presented in hockey players, then soccer & rugby - trove of data out of England & Australia. Cut hard laterally and - you get it...
But distance runners present often as well (fine line between OP & AP).
Don't miss the U of N workout/around in my note referred to above.
Most commonly presented in hockey players, then soccer & rugby - trove of data out of England & Australia. Cut hard laterally and - you get it...
But distance runners present often as well (fine line between OP & AP).
Don't miss the U of N workout/around in my note referred to above.
My son is a 16 yr old hockey player who has been out with this injury for eight months now. We saw our regular doctor today but he doesn't have any promising prospective surgeons. We also have a call in to Dr. Cattey in Milwaukee WI. Does anyone know how long it takes to hear from their office and get an appt. and also how long does it take to schedule the surgery? Time is of the essence with a young competitive athlete.
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Where is this Dr Maclellend and how do you go about getting an appointment with him?
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I was diagnosed with OP three plus years ago though my symptoms included adductor pain, pubic bone pain and abdominal pain. Adductor pain was the worst. 6 weeks ago I had an adductor release. Now I don't have any pain below the pubic bone as caused by the adductor but I am having excruciating abdominal pain that is causing the p. bone to hurt from above. It seems my pain was "flipped" or that the adductor release allowed a second condition, sports hernia ?, to fully show itself. Does this sound familiar to anyone? I think the diagnosis "OP" is vague. It should be OP caused by adductor tendinopathy or OP caused by a sports hernia. How many of you were diagnosed with concurring conditions? I just made an appointment with Meyers...
Yeah, i feel for everyone going through this. I'm done. I can't run 15 minutes without both groins flaring up. No idea what sort of injury specifically i'm looking at. My late summer and fall marathons are officially shelved. Looking to hook up with Myers when i'm back on the East Coast this fall. Good luck to all.
Hey guys, i know what you have and i've had it myself. Its awful so i'm going to try and give you some help. What i did was a load of research and when i had ruled out everything else i made the conclusion that it was a sports hernia (also known as athletic Publagia). There are not many doctors who know of this type of hernia as it was only discovered in the 80s by bill meyer (who still does surgeries, he is one of the doctors that you can type into google along with "athletic pubalgia" or "sports hernia" and get his information. I think he's located in pennsylvania. he does an open procedure taht takes about 3 months to totally heal but probably has a better success rate. The doctor who i went to (also an excellent doctor) is Richard Cattey, located in Milwaukee wisconsin. He does a laparoscopic procedure and claims it takes 2 weeks to repair (in my opinion it takes a bit longer). He works well with out of state insurance also. He's very professional and knowledgable. i had a left side sports hernia along with a spigelian hernia, he took care of both of them and i am feeling incredibly better. I believe i am now having a problem with the right side (very common after surgery for SH to occur on the other after surgery) and i will most likely be returning to dr. cattey soon to have him take a look at the other side. Best of luck!
Mike Homerick