2014 National 1/2 Marathon Champs

after Houston today---75 women now qualified for trials (11 new in the half and Heather Tanner new from the full)for the trials and the men are up to 64 (18 new from the 1/2 and 4 new from the full---although Ian Burrell (had a 1/2 time prior to today) with 2:13:26 now has the "A." I predict 125 both men and women will be qualified after this year's Grandmas.

125 would be a solid field. I still feel like they need to tighten up the Half Marathon standard, 1:04 seems more equivalent to a sub-2:18.

so there will be a nice field size of 125 but where will the race be? Will USATF ever announce the site for the 2016 Oly Trials Marathon?

It would be really cool if Meb mentioned somewhere that he reads LetsRun. Then the BroJos could say that he read their prediction and that they gave him the confidence to win....

Head Wound Harry wrote:

I'm gonna make a rojo-esque prediction about today's NFL playoff games. Either the Broncos or the Patriots will wind up facing an NFL adversary in the Super Bowl, probably a West Coast team. I'm thinking the combined score of the two games today will be more than 15 points but less than 200. The team that wins will both run and pass the ball and also play enough defense to ensure a solid outcome, because that's how football is played these days by the new generations of pros -- none of this "score fewer points and advance to the next round anyway" shit from these 'roided-up monsters.

nice race wrote:

32 OT qualifiers for the men.

1 Meb Keflezighi

San Diego, CA 14:39 29:10 43:34 58:12 1:01:23

2 Aaron Braun

Englewood, CO 14:38 29:10 43:38 58:25 1:01:38

3 Josphat Boit

Mammoth Lakes, CA 14:39 29:10 43:37 58:25 1:01:41

4 Tyler Pennel

Blowing Rock, NC 14:39 29:10 43:37 58:31 1:01:44

5 Matthew Llano

Flagstaff, AZ 14:40 29:11 43:40 58:33 1:01:47

6 Luke Puskedra

Beaverton, OR 14:39 29:11 43:39 58:33 1:01:48

7 Shadrack Biwott

Folsom, CA 14:39 29:10 43:38 58:36 1:01:56

If these sub 1:02 guys don't run under 2:10 in the marathon, they're doing something wrong.

Running for one hour is only a general indicator of how well you will do when asked to run for two hours. The studied posters will talk about energy systems, muscle groups, chemical reactions all night long and they are right a marathon is different than a 1/2 marathon and does different things to your body.

but can they run the marathon wrote:

If these sub 1:02 guys don't run under 2:10 in the marathon, they're doing something wrong.

In the end:

The marathon is a harsh mistress.

Pre's Stroller wrote:

Julie Benson wasn't bad--

Except she kept calling Lauren Kleppin Lauren Kepplin.

Wonderful race, good depth on both sides. I hate to be negative and no disrespect to any of the athletes who competed today, but our national road championships performances are below par. We still rave about 72 minute half and 2:10 marathons for example when they were running those times 4 decades ago. This is not to imply that those aren't credible performances, but those are B level performances nowadays. Our progress on the roads have not kelp pace with our track 5K/10K. - Again, I hate being negative, but I'm just keeping it real.

Head Wound Harry wrote:

nice race wrote:

32 OT qualifiers for the men

22, actually. USATF moved the standard from 1:05:00 to 1:04:00 when they tightened the full-distance standard from 2:19:00 to 2:17:00.

Top 20 in the marathon...three Americans under the standard and Wietecha missing it by 17 seconds.

"USATF moved the standard from 1:05:00 to 1:04:00"

Incorrect

"they tightened the full-distance standard from 2:19:00 to 2:17:00."

Incorrect

"Top 20 in the marathon...three Americans under the standard and Wietecha missing it by 17 seconds."

Incorrect

The article about the 1:04/2:17 standards was inaccurate.

Between 2001 and 2005 only one USA male went below 72 minutes. The boys ran well yesterday and not many of them have had long careers. They might be our B guys but those were A results.

TrackCoach wrote:

Wonderful race, good depth on both sides. I hate to be negative and no disrespect to any of the athletes who competed today, but our national road championships performances are below par. We still rave about 72 minute half and 2:10 marathons for example when they were running those times 4 decades ago. This is not to imply that those aren't credible performances, but those are B level performances nowadays. Our progress on the roads have not kelp pace with our track 5K/10K. - Again, I hate being negative, but I'm just keeping it real.

mooroney wrote:

"USATF moved the standard from 1:05:00 to 1:04:00"

Incorrect

"they tightened the full-distance standard from 2:19:00 to 2:17:00."

Incorrect

"Top 20 in the marathon...three Americans under the standard and Wietecha missing it by 17 seconds."

Incorrect

The article about the 1:04/2:17 standards was inaccurate.

Current info at USATF-

but I'm not sure which end of the horse produced it.

2016 U.S. Olympic Trials - Marathon Qualifying Standards

Event "A" "B"

Men Marathon 2:15:00 2:18:00

Half Marathon 1:05:00

Event "A" "B"

Women Marathon 2:37:00 2:43:00

Half Marathon 1:15:00

Qualifying window: August 1, 2013 until 30 days prior to the designated Olympic Trials race.

Qualifying Guidelines

1. Athletes must meet the "B" standard in order to enter the 2016 U.S. Olympic Team Trials – Marathon event.

2. The qualifying mark must be made in a race on a certified course Sanctioned by USA Track & Field or a member federation of the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF). The course must be USATF/IAAF/AIMS certified with an active course certification and have an elevation loss no greater than 3.25 meters/km. All course configurations will be accepted (no minimum separation).

3. The qualifying standards must be met from August 1, 2013 until 30 days prior to the designated Olympic Trials race.

4. All qualifying performances are subject to verification.

5. "Gun" time is the only acceptable method of timing. Chip/net times cannot be used for qualifying. Consideration may be given to "chip/tag" times for competitors with "gun" times extremely close to the above qualifying standards.

6. Athletes meeting the “A” standard will be provided funding support.

mooroney wrote:

The article about the 1:04/2:17 standards was inaccurate.

Was the article (http://www.rrm.com/Newsarchives/Archive14/USATFarticle.pdf, see page 6) actually inaccurate, or did USATF change its tune since the article was published?

TrackCoach wrote:

Wonderful race, good depth on both sides. I hate to be negative and no disrespect to any of the athletes who competed today, but our national road championships performances are below par. We still rave about 72 minute half and 2:10 marathons for example when they were running those times 4 decades ago. This is not to imply that those aren't credible performances, but those are B level performances nowadays. Our progress on the roads have not kelp pace with our track 5K/10K. - Again, I hate being negative, but I'm just keeping it real.

It's especially obvious on the women's side. We only had 6 women run

a faster pace in the half than what the 4th place Ethiopian ran in the full.

Mebroids is developing that HGH/testosterone jaw/chin.

You're late if you thought he was clean. Not at all. On a side note is Alia married to Joe Gray? Says he lives in Colorado but he is in Washington??

Braun will beat Meb in the marathon trials, watch. Meb will lose to a few Africans but probably still end up sub 2:10 at Boston so I don't know what he is thinking in talking about winning that title. NOT

Reality Checker wrote:

It's especially obvious on the women's side. We only had 6 women run a faster pace in the half than what the 4th place Ethiopian ran in the full.

thanks for using that analogy just did the math on the 5th ETH-

The fifth place ETH went through the half one second slower that Kleppin raced her half.

11 ETH and 19 KEN went under 70 in an actual half and I'm way too lazy to see if any were sub70 enroute.

I really don't want to look at the mens side but a glance at one list says US had one 2:09.45 while KEN two dosen guys and ETH thirteen make up the 37 under 2;07:30.

USA had four guys within ten minutes of the list leader and WR race but 11 were with in 11 minutes. Lets do real dirty math and say if the 2:03.23 marathon was a 20 lap race all the Americans would have been lapped

texts from last nite LRC-style wrote:

Rojo, you questioned Meb's age + Braun's half ability/PR in the text, and they end up 1-2...sure you want to take 'credit' for this??? ;)

This is exactly what the brojos love to do. They make general statements that could go either way. If Meb and Braun failed, they could easily say, "look, I was right; Meb's too old!" or "Braun still hasn't pulled it off at the half." They also claim that JK is a genius when he does the same thing.

Reality Checker wrote:

It's especially obvious on the women's side. We only had 6 women run

a faster pace in the half than what the 4th place Ethiopian ran in the full.

What do you expect? The prize money in the marathon was $40,000/20,000/10,000, while in the HM US Championship it's $12,000/10,000/7,000 (plus small time bonuses). The per capita in Ethiopia is $1200, and in Kenya it's $1700. The top Ethiopian woman just made enough money for 33 yrs of living in Ethiopia, while the top American athletes are paid like the checkout ladies at Walmart. You get what you paid for.