Rich Fronings 400m? 65 seconds?!

Pretty sure he doesn't care too much about his running times... The dude is ripped and can snatch almost 300lbs!! He can power clean like 375lbs at a low bodyweight!!! That is crazy power and is built like a Sh#$ brick house! Im pretty sure the chicks don't care that he can run a 50 second 400m or a mile +... ;0)

Jim-Head wrote:

Running isn't about anything other than being good at running. Running has little value, other than general fitness, to any specific sport. Running will not make you a good at weight training or ball sports. Running will not get you very far in power lifting competitions. Running will not get you through a walk on tryout for a Major League baseball team or NFL team. Running will not get you out of the first round at the local tennis tournament. Excelling at running will just mean that you are better than other runners. Nothing more, nothing less.

From what I've seen on this forum, distance runners overrate the transferability of their fitness, even when the activity transferred to involves a lot of running, e.g. soccer or ultimate frisbee. When you're so used to pacing yourself, you forget how to do the all-out bursts of movement that are required in those games, and you get worn out quicker than you expect.

What's more, I think that distance runners lose sight of how tired they are on a daily basis. When I walk by the local park and see guys aggressively playing basketball, I think, "Man, how do they have the energy to do that? They seem so much younger and lively than I am." That's because people who play basketball recreationally only play every couple days and so they're well rested and ready to go all-out while actually enjoying themselves. And of course they don't fret about calories or losing fitness or anything. Distance runners, on the other hand, are perpetually sore and hungry, rarely ever feeling 100% except after a proper taper prior to a race.

Track coach 8811 wrote:

Pretty sure he doesn't care too much about his running times... The dude is ripped and can snatch almost 300lbs!! He can power clean like 375lbs at a low bodyweight!!! That is crazy power and is built like a Sh#$ brick house! Im pretty sure the chicks don't care that he can run a 50 second 400m or a mile +... ;0)

Have you seen the build of the 4 sprinters I listed.

My point exactly.

Track coach 8811 wrote:

.....The dude is ripped and can snatch almost 300lbs!! ......That is crazy power and is built like a Sh#$ brick house! Im pretty sure the chicks don't care that he can run a 50 second 400m or a mile +... ;0)

Your guy:

My guys:

One of "your guys" is a known roid-head so leave him out of this. His abilities don't count. Your second guy is the fastest human of all time. Have you seen the videos of him lifting? His workouts consist of power cleans with 95 lbs. he's one of the world's most electric athletes, but wouldn't even qualify for the Games let alone be competitive. I know nothing about Oliver's workout regimen other than the fact that he's ripped.

Thanks for making the crossfitter's point by showing the picture of Khalipa. That physique is far better suited for crossfit than anything you showed whether you like it or not.

jamin wrote:

That's because people who play basketball recreationally only play every couple days and so they're well rested and ready to go all-out while actually enjoying themselves. And of course they don't fret about calories or losing fitness or anything. Distance runners, on the other hand, are perpetually sore and hungry, rarely ever feeling 100% except after a proper taper prior to a race.

Your key words here are RECREATIONAL basketball players who ONLY play every COUPLE DAYS.

99% of recreational runners only run a few days a week.

Go home troll wrote:

Thanks for making the crossfitter's point by showing the picture of Khalipa. That physique is far better suited for crossfit than anything you showed whether you like it or not.

His "physique" is a joke compared to the athletes I posted.

You have classic crossfit goggles and are in extreme fervent denial.

The burden run is a great example of an endurance event! You jus picked out the running part to make a point that doesn't hold water. What evidence is there the David Oliver could compete in an event tha lasts 30 minutes?

Track coach 8811 wrote:

Pretty sure he doesn't care too much about his running times... The dude is ripped and can snatch almost 300lbs!! He can power clean like 375lbs at a low bodyweight!!! That is crazy power and is built like a Sh#$ brick house! Im pretty sure the chicks don't care that he can run a 50 second 400m or a mile +... ;0)

More evidence that xfit guys care more about their physical appearance than about actual athleticism.

Yes, crossfitters only care about their physique. That's why troll didn't address my valid points and only said his track athletes had better physiques. If a track athlete's physique is what you aspire to, sure they are superior. If you aspire to be the most powerful athlete possible, the track physique doesn't hold any appeal. How hard is that to understand? There is an entire world outside your running forums and track teammates...you should explore it when you grow up.

Froning is weak and slow. Thousands of 120 pound high school boys can beat this clown in a 400. Hundreds of high school girls can beat this clown in a 400. I'm 50 yo, not a great athlete, but I would bet any amount of money that I can beat this clown in running, tennis, swimming, skiing, snowboarding, golf, road biking, mountain biking, kayaking, rowing. He's not a great athlete, he is better than most in an extremely fringe game.

What valid points did you make? That you don't know the workout regimens of some of the top track sprinters in the world? I'll give you a clue, they didn't get their physique from just sprinting.

Yeah, they have no strength at all, all they can do is run 100m /sarcasm.

I don't know what Fronings 400 time is but I've seen him doing what looked like 40 yard dashes. His explosiveness and acceleration as well es top speed was literally off the charts. I am sure he can extend these skills to the 100 and the 200 but would probably fall off a bit for the 400. I would say in everyday shape ~50. With specific training I can see him around ~47.

Xfit_guy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

I don't know what Fronings 400 time is but I've seen him doing what looked like 40 yard dashes. His explosiveness and acceleration as well es top speed was literally off the charts. I am sure he can extend these skills to the 100 and the 200 but would probably fall off a bit for the 400. I would say in everyday shape ~50. With specific training I can see him around ~47.

Nope. I will race him for any amount of money at 40 yards. I will give him $100,000 today if he runs ~50. He can train forever and never run ~47. Put the money where the mouth is. Xfit guys are too slow and weak to race.

Xfit is CHUNKY FAT. Let's have some real races. Junior high school girls vs froning or any other xfit poser. Face it, after 50 yards, xfit will realize that they don't have the guts or fitness to compete, and will give up like the chunkyfat punkassbitches they are.

Lighten up Francis wrote:

Nothing could be more true than running only makes you better at runnng. That was my only point,

You should try telling this to all the runners that think some goofy random weight lifting and strengthening exercises will somehow make them a better runner.

The ignorance of some of you is incredible.

trollololol wrote:

Your guy:

http://crossfitbattlefield.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/jason-khalipa.jpg

Jesus that guy needs a tan.

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Lighten up Francis wrote:

No, but runners are continually going on about how poor crossfit athletes are. I never said they are the world's best athletes. It's a marketing gimmick, get over it. Maybe your precious sport of distance running should hire crossfit to market them so it doesn't completely die over the next generation. Best athletes or not, don't try to tell me distance runners are even mediocre athletes. Roy made the point that crossfit only makes you good at crossfit. Nothing could be more true than running only makes you better at runnng. That was my only point, why are runners so sensitive about crossfit? I know the answer, I'd just like to hear it from one of you.

It isn't just runners. Go onto other fitness forums and they make fun of cross fitters too.

True, You didn't say they were the world's best athlete...I also never said you did. But the entire point of this thread is that is the claim of cross fit. The OP was pointing out that it was just a claim, which you seem to agree with.

You are twisting this entire thread into something it was never intended to be. Nobody said runners were good at something beyond running.