Rich Fronings 400m? 65 seconds?!

You're right that running is not given a huge priority, especially in the CF Games. There is much more running done at the local gym level. The top games athletes are much more strength focused until they start programming more pure running events in competition.

They may program a 200m run following 15 deadlifts with 315 lbs, repeat 6 times. Froning can run those 200's a lot faster than the weaker, aerobically fit guy that struggles to complete the deads.

Crossfit isn't about anything other than being good at crossfit. Crossfit has little value, other than general fitness, to any specific sport. Crossfit will not make you a good distance runner or sprinter. Crossfit will not get you very far in power lifting competitions. Crossfit will not get you through a walk on tryout for a Major League baseball team or NFL team. Crossfit will not get you out of the first round at the local tennis tournament. Excelling at crossfit will just mean that you are better than other crossfitters. Nothing more, nothing less.

Precious Roy wrote:

Crossfit isn't about anything other than being good at crossfit. Crossfit has little value, other than general fitness, to any specific sport. Crossfit will not make you a good distance runner or sprinter. Crossfit will not get you very far in power lifting competitions. Crossfit will not get you through a walk on tryout for a Major League baseball team or NFL team. Crossfit will not get you out of the first round at the local tennis tournament. Excelling at crossfit will just mean that you are better than other crossfitters. Nothing more, nothing less.

Amen to this. If the "best athlete in the world" or "most fit guy" or whatever stupid title the Cross fitters give that Froning guy can't even beat 65 seconds in a 400, that is weak. The best decathletes in the world still run the 400m in 46-50 seconds even though they are actually very good at olympic events, not some hodgepodge cluster of arbitrary events that nobody practices in the world.

Replace Crossfit with Running in Roy's post and it is equally accurate. Thanks Roy for such a wonderful contribution to the conversation. Crossfit and running are both hobbies people enjoy. Neither of them will solve the world's problems. Genius.

Lighten up Francis wrote:

Replace Crossfit with Running in Roy's post and it is equally accurate. Thanks Roy for such a wonderful contribution to the conversation. Crossfit and running are both hobbies people enjoy. Neither of them will solve the world's problems. Genius.

must of struck a nerve lol

I didn't realize xfit guys were that pathetically slow. Jeez, they're weaker than some 11 yo girls. No wonder xfit guy is too cowardly to race me.

Lighten up Francis wrote:

Replace Crossfit with Running in Roy's post and it is equally accurate. Thanks Roy for such a wonderful contribution to the conversation. Crossfit and running are both hobbies people enjoy. Neither of them will solve the world's problems. Genius.

You're absolutely right. Running will only make you better at running, olympic weightlifting will only make you better at olympic weightlifting, and crossfit will only make you better at crossfit. The difference is olympic weightlifters and runners don't go parading around claiming to be the "world's fittest human" because they are good in their discipline. You missed the above poster's point entirely.

Lighten up Francis wrote:

Replace Crossfit with Running in Roy's post and it is equally accurate. Thanks Roy for such a wonderful contribution to the conversation. Crossfit and running are both hobbies people enjoy. Neither of them will solve the world's problems. Genius.

Nobody is claiming a distance runner to be the best or most fit athlete in the world.

No, but runners are continually going on about how poor crossfit athletes are. I never said they are the world's best athletes. It's a marketing gimmick, get over it. Maybe your precious sport of distance running should hire crossfit to market them so it doesn't completely die over the next generation. Best athletes or not, don't try to tell me distance runners are even mediocre athletes. Roy made the point that crossfit only makes you good at crossfit. Nothing could be more true than running only makes you better at runnng. That was my only point, why are runners so sensitive about crossfit? I know the answer, I'd just like to hear it from one of you.

true that yo wrote:

Amen to this. If the "best athlete in the world" or "most fit guy" or whatever stupid title the Cross fitters give that Froning guy can't even beat 65 seconds in a 400, that is weak. The best decathletes in the world still run the 400m in 46-50 seconds even though they are actually very good at olympic events, not some hodgepodge cluster of arbitrary events that nobody practices in the world.

I'm not supporting CF's "fittest assertion" but honestly if say they added the 400 meter run into the CF games, I'm pretty sure froning would run a low 50. Froning is great at everything he trains for. If he had to run a competitive 400 he would train to do so.

the best athletes in the world are either decathletes or NFL players

Thank you for a dose of sanity Mrr82. Froning's training partner, who is the same size and can't beat Froning in anything, has run a 47s 400m. How is that possible???? Well, at one point he trained to run a fast 400m. Wow, what a concept.

Crossfit is for those who like to be mediocre at everything.

Hopeful runner, I don't completely disagree with your comment. I kind of like being at least average in many physical activities. Some people like to be best at one discipline. However, keep in mind that most of the runners that bash crossfitters are average at running, and far below average in almost everything else. Very few runners and crossfitters are successful enough to make a good living. The rest of us do it as a hobby because it makes us happy. What's wrong with that?

crossfit is a great way to get in shape, olympic lifting will help you become a more explosive athlete for any sport. Distance running will only help you become a distance runner.

Lighten up Francis wrote:

Thank you for a dose of sanity Mrr82. Froning's training partner, who is the same size and can't beat Froning in anything, has run a 47s 400m. How is that possible???? Well, at one point he trained to run a fast 400m. Wow, what a concept.

Interesting - who's the training partner who's run the 47.xx 400m?

Dan Bailey who ran for Ohio University.

The thing most of you don't realize is that rich has probably never raced a 400. He has only done one during a workout. I am sure he could run under 55 with a pair of max cats and a race setting.

Mrr82 wrote:

true that yo wrote:

Amen to this. If the "best athlete in the world" or "most fit guy" or whatever stupid title the Cross fitters give that Froning guy can't even beat 65 seconds in a 400, that is weak. The best decathletes in the world still run the 400m in 46-50 seconds even though they are actually very good at olympic events, not some hodgepodge cluster of arbitrary events that nobody practices in the world.

I'm not supporting CF's "fittest assertion" but honestly if say they added the 400 meter run into the CF games, I'm pretty sure froning would run a low 50. Froning is great at everything he trains for. If he had to run a competitive 400 he would train to do so.

Except that a crossfit mantra, stolen from Robert Heinlein, is "specialization is for insects".

No, A 65 blows. If he could run 50 with training he'd be under 60 in his sleep.