RUPP: 2011, 2012, 2013: six championship races, one medal. Can we safely call the London 10,000 a FLUKE?

Considering how he has had a noteable down year, I would consider 4th in the 10000 a step in the right direction. When it came to your predictions, you were very wrong as to what would happen.

For those who were predicting Gebremeskel and Merga, it was nice to see NCAA runner Mohammed Ahmed beat both of them (who I think still has a year of eligibility left)

10/10. Masterful! So many responses in so little time, and the responses are oh so passionate. Good job!

You know what the funny thing is about this thread? The really, really REALLY funny thing?

Before the race has even been run, I assumed that Rupp NO CHANCE at a medal in the 5000.

How many disputed that?

0.

Argy bargy, beeyotches!

RUPP: 2011, 2012, 2013: six championship races, one medal. Can we safely call the London 10,000 a FLUKE?

On an anonymous message board one can safely call it anything they want. IMHO one would be wrong to call it a fluke, but your safety is assured.

The race proves that Mo Farah is considered 'the man' like Bekele was. Is he as good as Bekele or Geb? No. But everyone in the field fears him and there is no-one running today who thinks he can run away from Mo in a 10000. We will see if anyone thinks he can run away in a 5000.

It has been suggested that there are some marathoners who should be running these events and beating Mo.

Who are they? Kipsang, Mutai, Abshero, Kimetto? Are they better than Mosop, Masai and Dinkessa were?

What would these guys run?

"but not on the level of the medal contenders in a world-class 10,000" Yeah, 4th place and just behind 3rd is not a medal contender? He already has an Olympic medal like it or not. The OP must have a sad, sad life to feel a need to troll like this. OP, I really hope you GET HELP. This coward won't post his loser name and PRs (which Rupp would stomp by minutes).

Why do people try to appeal to this moran's logic? He's a troll and thus doesn't even try to be logical.

Rupp will be top 6 in the 5K! Care to wager, Mr. Saladbar?

Les wrote:

2011: 7th

2012: 2nd

2013: 4th

The only guy with a better performance over the last three championships is Mo Farah.

Jeilan may be more impressive. 2nd = 2nd and DNS+1st > 7th + 4th in my opinion.

2011: 1st

2012: DNS

2013: 2nd

Thanks for establishing that Rupp has raised the standard for US distance running. Medals are expected!

How far we have come in a few short years.

Rupp did better than I thought he would do this year. He is often one of the top 5 in the world. Not bad.

Are you kidding me?

4th in a 10,000m in a World Champs is a fantastic result. He beat 2 of the Ethiopians and 2 of the Kenyans. 5 years ago, that would have been unheard of.

It is difficult to be consistent in this event. Look down the list at Merga, Kipsira,and Gebremeskel - who he beat. It's not easy.

Hey, 2 Canadians in top 20. Canada was the non-Afican country with the most runners in the top 20.

800Coach wrote:

Hey, 2 Canadians in top 20. Canada was the non-Afican country with the most runners in the top 20.

Besides the US which had 3 in the top twenty (Rupp=4th, Ritz=10th, and Derrick=18th)

800Coach wrote:

Are you kidding me?

4th in a 10,000m in a World Champs is a fantastic result. He beat 2 of the Ethiopians and 2 of the Kenyans. 5 years ago, that would have been unheard of.

It is difficult to be consistent in this event. Look down the list at Merga, Kipsira,and Gebremeskel - who he beat. It's not easy.

Hey, 2 Canadians in top 20. Canada was the non-Afican country with the most runners in the top 20.

USA had 3 in the top 20...

Do you know what is really sad about this thread? The clown who started it has nothing better to do than criticize a hard-working American like Rupp and argue with everybody that takes the troll bait. You are a sad, sad man.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

1234567890 wrote:

I know you're just trolling for the fanboys but I think Rupp ran a better race today than in the Olympics, despite the result. He was fighting like a baller out there and just didn't have the final sprint.

Getting outkicked by Farah and Jeilan should be expected. I don't know about Tanui, but losing to one mortal in a WC is not a bad result.

This is a very smart post, and I think you're right.

The field today was actually quite a bit stronger than in London. For one thing, Jeilan not being injured makes a difference.

But this is kind of my point. Rupp may have in fact run BETTER today than in London. But with a legit field, his ceiling is below the medals.

Marathon time. I hope he runs London with Mo next year.

The way I see it, Rupp is one to one and a half "steps" below where Farah is. The question is, is there any improvement left?

Rupp is pretty consistent in championships. A minor improvement on his current level would make him into a Sihine type, perennial silver medalist. A slightly better finish on top of that would put him where Mo is.

If he can improve at all, he could have a couple years like Mo. We should not expect it, but it is not impossible, and it is certainly a major advantage for him that Mo is his training partner. If he is regularly able to perform at Mo's level in practice (who knows if he does), it must do a lot for his confidence (and he looked VERY confident on the track today).

If all Rupp ends up doing is an Olympic silver, a WC 4th, and maybe a couple more top 5 WC/Oly performances, he will have had a better career than all but a very few African runners.

I'm not so sure Rupp is going to be a huge force in the marathon. I hope so, but I am not eager to see him leave the track yet.

Also, I think the 5000m will tell us more. I was expecting Rupp to finish anywhere from 2nd to 7th in the 10k, with a strong feeling it would be 5th. I think running 4th was a strong result, and shows he is not having as bad a season as his earlier results seemed to be tracking. I doubt he will have the speed to medal in the 5000m, but sometimes people surprise. When you least expect it, they pop a great result in what you thought was their weaker event.

I hope Rupp has come away from this 10k feeling good about what he did out there, but hungry for the next race.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

2011 WC: No medals.

2012: Silver in 10,000, and seventh.

2013: Fourth in 10,000, ZERO CHANCE of a medal in 5000.

We can clearly see which result is the exception and which is the rule.

There are no more track medals in Rupp's future. Time to hang up the spikes.

Hopefully the future will see some marathon paydays and maybe a win in a fixed field like Boston.

Just shut the fvck up man, can't you just stay silent for this championship.

Since the OP is claiming this was a weak field, lets look at the talent this year.

2013 World Champs 10000m

1. Mo Farah: 26:46 PB, Double Olympic Champion, 2011 Silver Medalist

2. Ibrahim Jelian: 27:02 PB, Returning World Champion

3. Paul Tanui: 26:50 PB, 2nd at the 39th WXC Championships

4. Galen Rupp: 26:48 PB, Olympic Silver Medalist

5. Abera Kuma: 26:52 PB/SB, 2nd in Ethiopian Trials

6. Bedan Karoki: 27:02 PB, 5th at the Olympic Games

7. Kenneth Kipkemoi: 26:52 PB

8. Nguse Tesfaldet: 27:28 PB

9. Mohammed Ahmed: 27:34 PB

10 Dathan Ritzenhein: 27:22 PB, 3rd 2009 WC Half-marathon

Gonna throw the interesting ones in there

12. Imane Merga: 26:48 PB, 26:57 SB, 3rd 2011 WC, 1st in the 39th WXC, 2nd 40th WXC

15. Dejen Gebremeskal: 26:51 PB/SB, 2nd 5000m OG, 3rd 5000 2011 WC.

2009 World Champs 10000m

1. Kenenisa Bekele: 26:17 PB, (At that time) 2008 Double OG, 2007 WC 1st 10000/2nd 5000, 1st 10000 2005 WC, 2004 OG 10000m Olympic Champ, 2nd 5000m OG)

2. Zersenay Tadese: 26:37 PB, 3rd 2004 OG

3. Moses Masai: 26:49 PB, 4th 2008 Olympic Games

4. Bernard Kipyego: 26:59 PB, 3rd at the 35th WXC

5. Imane Merga: 27:33 PB (in 2008)

6. Dathan Ritzenhein: 27:22 PB, 9th 2008 Olympic Marathon

7. Michah Kogo: 26:35 PB, 3rd 10000 2008 OG

8. Galen Rupp: 27:36 PB

9. Kidane Tadese: 27:06 PB

10. GEBREGZIABHER GEBREMARIAM: 26:52 PB,

I'd say the field was on par with previous years, with 2009 having a stronger first man in Bekele, but with 2013 having an overall deeper field. There are more sub-27 minute men in the 2013 final than in the 2009 final, so it is pretty difficult to claim that this year was an extremely weak field.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

2011 WC: No medals.

2012: Silver in 10,000, and seventh.

2013: Fourth in 10,000, ZERO CHANCE of a medal in 5000.

We can clearly see which result is the exception and which is the rule.

There are no more track medals in Rupp's future. Time to hang up the spikes.

Hopefully the future will see some marathon paydays and maybe a win in a fixed field like Boston.

Dude, you need to get a grip. Your obsession with Rupp is pathological. It doesn't matter if you're trolling or you're sincere. You spend an incredible amount of time thinking and writing about Galen Rupp. It's f*cking weird.

IN the Olympics, people line up and run for medals.

If you get silver on that day, it's a fact that you got the silver medal. Sure you fell one short, but you beat everyone else on the track.

Anyhow, carry on to fulfill your self-assigned role here, as we all do.