If you can run 1.5 miles in 10 minutes, you have achieved "endurance excellence".

Actually I can do all 4 of those things you listed.

From later in the article: "Bonus Tip: Train like Roger Bannister. That is, split the distance into four 600-yard intervals and run them at a pace that's about 10 percent faster than your 11/2-mile pace, resting 1 minute after each. Bannister used this method to train for the first sub-4-minute mile."

Oh, that's brilliant.

My endurance is my weakest attribute and I can easily beat 10 minutes.

mildlyamused wrote:

Wow, the arrogance!

You know, I just started getting more serious into long distance running (I used to be a short distance track athlete at a pretty good level) and I come in here every so often to see how I am progressing and this forum is by far the most douchey place I've been. Of course, I won't come here anymore but moreover, posters like you are the reason people are shy to go to the gym or start exercising. And you know what, since I played sports at a very good level, I can tell right now that the only reason you are putting down the average joe is because you overcmpensate for something. Most if not all of the great athletes I've seen are confident enough to encourage average joes without putting them down.

you should probably stick to runner's world

Do you even lift bro?

Letsrunners think 10:00 for 1.5 is slow but a bodyweight bench is hard to achieve and 200lbs is elite

Alan

runningart2004 wrote:

Letsrunners think 10:00 for 1.5 is slow but a bodyweight bench is hard to achieve and 200lbs is elite

A few years back I decided to jump in a 5K. I was 5'11'' 190 lb a skinny fat sack of shit and I hadn't done any exercise for over a decade and I ran it in 20:05. So I could probably just randomly run a 10 minute 1.5 mile with no training whatsoever even if overweight.

But bench press 285 lb? Now THAT would take YEARS of hard effort with a perfect diet, focusing on powerlifting training, and possibly drugs just to maybe have a chance at that weight.

Most elites across sports can't relate to anyone in the outside world. Unfortunately some of the 17 minute "local elites" who make up the majority of posters on this board believe that being a douche makes them part of that club.

Take solace in the fact that most of them must have miserable, sad lives.

runningart2004 wrote:

Do you even lift bro?

Letsrunners think 10:00 for 1.5 is slow but a bodyweight bench is hard to achieve and 200lbs is elite

Alan

Our weight training HS teacher told us 10 reps of body weight is good. I'm inclined to agree. Only could do it about six times, although I was mostly focused on track and cross.

YouHeardItHear wrote:

xfitter wrote:

It's akin to bench 1.5 times your body weight. Why don't you twigs comment on that?

That's my point in this article. Most these fools can't bench half their body weight yet they are saying they are so extremely fit. Look at the cross fit games. Those guys can run sub 17 or 16 and do lifts and BW stuff these guys can only dream of. In person, I have yet to meet someone who can both outlift and outrun me. If they can outlift me, I can outrun them. If they outrun me, I can outlift them

Obviously you've never met Joe Falcon.

viz the old Kenneth H Cooper aerobics test

old, but hale

running med student wrote:

Actually I can do all 4 of those things you listed.

Not really. I highly doubt you can manage a simple appendectomy should S--t hit the fan as a mere MS 1, 2, 3, or 4. If you were a PGY 2 in surgery maybe, but not as a medical student.

And you probably got your tourist-level Spanish but you ain't getting around like a native-speaker in Córdoba, Spain, or Córdoba, Mexico. Or anywhere for that matter.

Source: second-language Spanish speaker that can't bench 225 nor do a hard calculus problem right now. And probably farther along in medicine than you.

I started running at 46 when I found out I couldn't even run 15 min. continuously at 10'/mile pace.

It took me 9 months to run a 10 k ar 6'25"/mile pace, another 3 months to run a HM at 6'45" pace, and another year to run a marathon at 7'15" pace.

I would rate my running ability as above average, but far from outstanding.

I would bet 80% of 20-30 year olds in the general population could run a 10 minute 1.5 mile with 3 months of training and perhaps 30-40% with zero training. "Excellent" sounds excessive even for the general population.

Benching 1.5bw is like a sub 18 5k....anyone could do it if they trained hard enough......

...according to letsrun logic.

Fact is there are people so genetically ungifted they could not break 6 for a mile even if trained for years..likewise for 1.5bw bench and many other fitness barriers

Alan

As a high school freshman (girl), I and a lot of girls in my league could easily break ten minutes for the 1.5m XC race we ran. Most people in decent shape could probably run under 10 for 1.5 miles (but then again most Americans aren't in decent shape).

Can run that in sub 9 min and consider myself moderately good at the local charity race level masters division. Not sure that one could assess "endurance excellence" at such a short distance.

If you can run 20 miles at any speed, you have excellent endurance. In fact, slower might mean more endurance. I hear some people take 5 hours to run a marathon. I run a much faster marathon but I'm not sure I could run for 5 hours.

Spanish man2 wrote:

running med student wrote:

Actually I can do all 4 of those things you listed.

Not really. I highly doubt you can manage a simple appendectomy should S--t hit the fan as a mere MS 1, 2, 3, or 4. If you were a PGY 2 in surgery maybe, but not as a medical student.

And you probably got your tourist-level Spanish but you ain't getting around like a native-speaker in Córdoba, Spain, or Córdoba, Mexico. Or anywhere for that matter.

Source: second-language Spanish speaker that can't bench 225 nor do a hard calculus problem right now. And probably farther along in medicine than you.

ya douche.

im in 7th grade and most people can run it in about 9 minutes on the cross country meet. i normally do it in about 8 45 and the fastest can do it in about 7 30

150lbs marathon runner bench 225lbs. nope.

LM wrote:

xfitter wrote:

It's akin to bench 1.5 times your body weight. Why don't you twigs comment on that?

Not that difficult if you focus on it some. No reason anybody that runs fast can't bench 1.5x BW. Most just choose not to focus on that.

yogibear wrote:

I wonder if the top 100meter sprinters could do it?

No no no. We've been over this. Bolt, Phelps, Lebron, any NBA/NFL athlete. None of them could achieve this. They are not distance runners.

Maybe a pro soccer player could do it, but thats only because Rupp played soccer and pro soccer players sort of look like middle distance runners.