ok, i've tended to think the pollen talk is just excuses, and the mask is hilarious, but when rupp and farah were commentating, rupp said something about how salazar looks it up on "pollen.com or whatever". I thought it was a joke.
I just checked pollen.com, and the most intense pollen over the entire US is indeed centered on the coast of Oregon. I couldn't believe it.
As much as I hate to see an Olympic silver medalist('s coach) making excuses like that, maybe there is something to it.
According to allergy.com, Eugene currently has the highest pollen count in the nation.
They should take a page out of Chris Bosh's book or D. Wade or Spoelstra. One is playing with a bad ankle and theother is playing with a bad knee, and they are both doing squat against Indiana so far. Each time a reporter brings it up, those guys downplay it or refuse to use it as an excuse for their lousy performances. It's obvious to all that are watching that its affecting their performances, but you don't hear Spoelstra or his players talking about their ailmetns at press conferences. Maybe those guys are just tougher than distance runners though.
The pollen count in Eugene this past weekend was, according to the Eugene Register-Guard, the highest in the world for grass-seed pollan. A pity a few nincompoops are so unschooled as to recognize medical realities. Anyone remember Jim Ryun's difficulty running in Eugene? Pollan, people, it's the pollan. I attended the Pre and sneezed all weekend
1) A high pollen count can indeed impact performance quite significantly
2) Nobody should ever be leaking these excuses. It doesn't matter if they are legit or not. It is simply lame to be throwing out excuses.
whatagirlyman wrote:
Rupp is a f*cken p*ssy who uses medications to cope for his lack of real talent. Talent is raw physical ability. If Rupp was born 200 years ago he would be dead by 14. Rupp is nothing more than a well medicated lab rat. He should be ashamed of that girly-man weepy interview. Can't someone at Nike give him some PR training?
That was weird.
He should keep wearing the mask the next time.
I'm not a fan of excuses but for someone who suffers from allergies like myself, it can make you feel awful whether you accept it or not! Allergies cause respiratory complications as well as illness. Not something that helps when you are trying to run as fast as you can.
miamiheat wrote:
They should take a page out of Chris Bosh's book or D. Wade or Spoelstra. One is playing with a bad ankle and theother is playing with a bad knee, and they are both doing squat against Indiana so far. Each time a reporter brings it up, those guys downplay it or refuse to use it as an excuse for their lousy performances. It's obvious to all that are watching that its affecting their performances, but you don't hear Spoelstra or his players talking about their ailmetns at press conferences. Maybe those guys are just tougher than distance runners though.
So if no one is talking about their injuries then how did you know about them? Well placed leaks or top notch investigative journalism? In any event, you idiots need to quit comparing running a 5k to a team sport. If D Wade or Bosh played the whole game, jogged in place during the timeouts and breaks at the quarters/halves then maybe they'd have a claim at approaching the toughness required to run distance.
If Rupp was indeed suffering from allergies and still ran 6th in 13:08, it's probably safe to say he would have won easily on a normal day. After all, Farah ran 13:05 sick.
Should be doubly noted wrote:
1) A high pollen count can indeed impact performance quite significantly
2) Nobody should ever be leaking these excuses. It doesn't matter if they are legit or not. It is simply lame to be throwing out excuses.
2). Wrong, the reason it is a legit topic in Eugene is because one of the local industries in the Willamette Valley is growing grass to produced Grass Seed. What that means is that almost everyone knows someone who is an extreme sufferer of allergies to those grass seed grass pollens. It's like the fog in San Francisco in the summer time - it is a local topic. In the case of Rupp, even before the breathing mask experiment, it was public record that he had bad allergy problems and got regular allergy shots while living in Eugene.
What really shouldn't be happening is so many low minded, negative people devoid of understanding or compassion for allergy sufferers. If you are one, or have one in your family -- you get it. It is miserable for those people.
holycrapyou'redumb wrote:
stick with eharmony wrote:I'm sick of Al sal always making excuses. He's so lame sometimes. Just admit the fact that your little protege is overrated and has bad races. Face the facts al stupid
It's pathetic how ignorant and petty people like you are. When this happens each time, and Rupp then has a great races later, why do you think that is? He just had a "bad race". Really? What causes a bad race randomly? There are generally REASONS, which are legit excuses as to why someone has an off race. Maybe it's allergies, maybe it's being sick, maybe it's tweaking a muscle, not sleeping well, some bad food, or maybe it's a bad spell of training, the athlete being mentally distracted due to personal issues, or a million other REASONS. There's no such thing as a bad race without a reason.
If you would like to believe there's a little magic fairy who decides if someone is going to have a good race or bad race, and nobody should ever talk about what they think happened, you don't belong in this sport.
That's quite a rant. Nobody is saying there aren't excuses for a bad race. They're criticizing the fact that Al Sal had to complain to the media about it. Everybody has bad races for different reasons, but they don't go around complaining to the press about it. Lea Wallace's dad died during the olympic trials last year. You didn't see her complaining to the media that it was why she didn't make it to the Olympic final. In fact, most people didn't find out until months after when she was interviewed for a WOW.
str8 Klownin wrote:
If you listened to Rupp's interview during the 10K when he was in the booth with the announcers, he said that the pollen count was supposed to be fine.
yeah, he did. Said the weather looked great and he was looking forward to running a fast time.
obviously didn't go as planned, which is perfectly fine, but just say that. no need to make up allergen excuses.
Really don't understand why people are throwing Galen under the bus here. Did anyone actually click the link?
"-- Galen Rupp probably was more bothered by pollen in the Eugene air yesterday in the 5,000 meters than he let on. The Oregon Project star doesn't want to use his pollen allergies as an excuse."
Galen didn't say sh*t as far as I can understand, other than he was disappointed. Salazar is pointing out the pollen as a factor, and, from reading several posts on here, it sounds like a very legitimate problem. So, the question is, why did Galen run, because he looked about as bad as I've ever seen him and still ran 13:08 on a hot, windy day when the chase pack didn't go with the pacesetters?
As for the football/basketball analogy, that really is pathetic. Frankly, basketball and football players are coddled better than anyone and they are just like decathletes. They can't handle the pain of long distance running and whine about it. Decathletes hate running the 1,500.
The whole talk of folks like Bosh and Wade not talking about being hurt is silly.
For one, everyone knows they are hurt, Bosh left for the locker room in the middle of a game (few games back). So yeah, no need to mention it as the commentators constantly talk about it.
Second. They have teammates that can step it up and cover a bit for them when they are off 5-10%. In track you are all out there alone so it can be pretty obvious when something is up.
And why the bashing on Rupp, he isn't the one making excuses.
I gets reamed when he pulls out of a race for whatever reason, and gets reamed when he races and isn't quite on that day.
On the bright side he seemed off, and had a bad day and still ran 13:08 and was in the mix with a top field.
He may not of won the race or PR'd but he still had a decent race. It's not like he blew up and ran 13:20!
How much better did you expect him to run, he was coming down from altitude and USA's is when the real racing begins.
Pollen or no pollen, if this is Rupp's bad day, I'll take it.
#fanboy
A Duck wrote:
Should be doubly noted wrote:1) A high pollen count can indeed impact performance quite significantly
2) Nobody should ever be leaking these excuses. It doesn't matter if they are legit or not. It is simply lame to be throwing out excuses.
2). Wrong, the reason it is a legit topic in Eugene is because one of the local industries in the Willamette Valley is growing grass to produced Grass Seed. What that means is that almost everyone knows someone who is an extreme sufferer of allergies to those grass seed grass pollens. It's like the fog in San Francisco in the summer time - it is a local topic. In the case of Rupp, even before the breathing mask experiment, it was public record that he had bad allergy problems and got regular allergy shots while living in Eugene.
What really shouldn't be happening is so many low minded, negative people devoid of understanding or compassion for allergy sufferers. If you are one, or have one in your family -- you get it. It is miserable for those people.
Wrong. Making excuses remains lame, regardless of your dear little hero-worshipping, oh let's not criticize anyone cuteness.
Some days you have it, some days you don't. Whether it is allergies, fatigue, illness...whatever - what's the difference? Run, compete, accept the result and move on - no excuses.
Dennis Reynolds wrote:
That makes you pathetic. Same for Rupp. Do you ever hear about football players or basketball players whining about allergies? Runners can be such wimps sometimes.
Damn fool. You can't really think that football and basketball demand as much from the respiratory system as racing 3.1 miles all out. The ballers would need heart-lung transplants after that kind of effort.
And distance runners can't ride the pine awhile or suck on an oxygen mask every 40 for 50 yards.
Montesquieu wrote:
https://twitter.com/B_Sotelo13/media/grid[quote]str8 Klownin wrote:
Anyone know who the B_Sotelo guy is? At first I thought he worked for Nike, but now I think he's just a hard core fan.
Just curious as he lives in Ft. Worth where I live.
RuKiddingMe!! wrote:
aggreed, I hate treadmills, but I have to run on them in June because of pollen count is so high, if I try and man up and go running outside, i get so sick it I become incapacitated for days and sometimes miss work. If don't have allergies, you just dont know.
Why don't you, Rupp and the other allergy sufferers simply get the shots that build up your immunity to whatever allergens ail you?