Pressure cooker IEDs points fingers straight at Al Qaeda

Sure that's Al Qaeda's recipe for a bomb, but neo-Nazis are known to use the same recipe. So it's still unclear if the perpetrators were foreign extremists or right-wing domestic whackos.

http://ideas.time.com/2013/04/16/whos-behind-the-boston-bombings-some-initial-clues/

g8r wrote:

Well, now that you mention it wrote:

Yes, that's right, that big old mean Federal Government were big bad bullies for investigating that harmless little practice of the rape of girls by eminently righteous and holy 'religious' leaders. Definitely the child rapists and mass murdering Davidian leaders were the victims there. Absolutely.

Yeah, but then the government killed the kids sooooo...

Actually no. They were murdered along with virtually everyone else by the leaders of the cult before the government's assault.

Nice try though.

Just curious, were the 2 bombs inside the buildings or on the sidewalks?

Also, I wonder if it's possible to track down the purchaser of a pressure cooker. That doesn't seem like a common item that is bought often today, especially more than one at a time.

agip wrote:

yes, that's right - mcveigh chose april 19 to kill americans in order to commemorate the branch davidian massacre of other americans. I'm not making this up.

For better or worse April 19th there was also a large raid of a conservative/racist group called The Covenant, Sword, and Arm of the Lord.

I don't think any of those things are related to the bombing yesterday.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

agip wrote:

yes, that's right - mcveigh chose april 19 to kill americans in order to commemorate the branch davidian massacre of other americans. I'm not making this up.

For better or worse April 19th there was also a large raid of a conservative/racist group called The Covenant, Sword, and Arm of the Lord.

I don't think any of those things are related to the bombing yesterday.

Forgot to mention, one of the members of the CSA of the Lord was Randy Weaver of the "Ruby Ridge" fame, so this is definitely all tied together in some sort of right wing/nut case stew.

Benign dictator wrote:

so not too much logic involved

Ok.

Well, now that you mention it wrote:

g8r wrote:

Yeah, but then the government killed the kids sooooo...

Actually no. They were murdered along with virtually everyone else by the leaders of the cult before the government's assault.

Nice try though.

Could you maybe cite a source for that? Because I'm pretty sure that almost everyone died from the fire (mostly suffocation and smoke inhalation). I am aware that the government alleges that some of the Branch Davidians intentionally started the fires.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

[quote]agip wrote:

yes, that's right - mcveigh chose april 19 to kill americans in order to commemorate the branch davidian massacre of other americans. I'm not making this up.[quote]

For better or worse April 19th there was also a large raid of a conservative/racist group called The Covenant, Sword, and Arm of the Lord.

I don't think any of those things are related to the bombing yesterday.

McVeigh did not target civilians. He targeted a federal building and no doubt viewed the people inside as collateral damage. As evil as he was he is still a half step above muslims, who deliberately target civilians. In Boston there was no target other than civilians, which is the real finger that points to a group of people completely devoid of morals - a half step below McVeigh and a half step away from baboons: muslims.

Was done by Iranian agents, but they did sloppy work to cover their tracks.

I don't understand the personal investment in who might have done this. Domestic or foreign, there will still be three people dead and more who lost limbs. Just hope, pray or whatever else you feel compelled to do that this person(s) is apprehended and never gets a chance to do this again.

What are we arguing about?

true Islam wrote:

major dickason wrote:

al qaeda and would have been on youtube taking credit of this.

They're too busy dancing in the streets and giving out candy.

Taliban has already denied any role.

Let's not pretend otherwise wrote:

... a half step below McVeigh and a half step away from baboons: muslims.

see what you just did there? Dehumanize. That's how people justify doing stuff like this.

Some nut attempted to kill Mississippi Republican Senator.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/us/tainted-letter-intercepted/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Let's not pretend otherwise wrote:

McVeigh did not target civilians. He targeted a federal building and no doubt viewed the people inside as collateral damage.

If he wanted to just target the building, he would have blown it up in the middle of the night. He intended to kill civilians.

Sagarin wrote:

agip wrote:

just to cool off things - I am not proposing right wingers as the likely perpetrator of this - I have no idea and neither does anyone on lrc.

But my point is that April has resonance among violent right wingers, and apparently right wing violence is on the rise.

It is still tiny and barely material, agreed.

agip, you're no idiot, but seriously? What you implied is disappointing, especially the manner in which you went about it. I think Precious Roy may be on to something. Why does it have to be a right-wing or left-wing "nut?" Even if either one turns out to be the case, it's a morally compromised individual all the same and a horrific act. I'll one up you and imply it was an atheist since National Atheist day also falls in April. Sounds kind of dumb.

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Sagarin I may very well be an idiot.

But I am sure that in some FBI conference room a group of agents/cops are saying the same thing I am. Fact is, extreme right wing violence is sort of like this - they would be wrong to ignore extreme right wing violence.

There is a direct precedent - the bombing of the Atlanta Olympics. There a guy with a right wing agenda (anti gay, anti abortion, anti government), set off a bomb at an international sporting event.

To my memory no muslim group has ever done that. (Munich was different, clearly)

So I'm not sure what your point is - the day was an important one in right wing mythology. The act had a precedent by right wing terrorists, and right wing violence is apparently rising, if still small. These are valid points and worthy of discussion.

I should be including the word 'militant' or 'extreme' every time I write 'right wing' -I don't mean to implicate republicans.

Bill Ayers wrote:

[quote]agip wrote:

Maybe "this time of year" is linked to a favorite of the left wing - April 20th"? Go smoke pot and blow shite up.

They're always doing that! Gosh!

Your first link is to the Blaze. Enough said. This recipe for bomb making is widely available on the web and anyone has access to it. Right wing groups at home have been known to have the technology to make them. It does not point to al Qaeda at all.

No one's mentioned an extreme Moderate as a possibility.

Not to make light of this tragedy, but there is no point in making assumptions with incomplete information. It looks as much like the Olympic bombing as it does the Times Square attempt. We'll figure it out. Please take the Olympic events as a warning, don't let rumor destroy another Richard Jewel.