Also, I should say Vans experimented with running shoes around this time. There were a pair in my Dad's closet sitting there since eternity it seemed. If I remember correctly they did have a waffle sole. I tried wearing them once when I was older and they soles cracked in half. I eventually threw them away only to regret it later. They were navy and burgandy with a bgrey and white mid sole, black sole and a red "V" stripe running horizontal across the shoe. They had the same feel as New Balances.