Larry Dickman wrote:
It's not a real LRC post until someone declares it the dumbest post in LRC history.
Classic!
Larry Dickman wrote:
It's not a real LRC post until someone declares it the dumbest post in LRC history.
Classic!
Any one know if the video of the race is online?
Video wrote:
Any one know if the video of the race is online?
The gap she puts on the field on the final lap is impressive.
http://usaindoor.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=25&do=videos&video_id=80889What a joke of a race. They were going slower than my goddamn marathon pace.
slice of the pie??, mighty small pie...
Prize Money
2013 USA Track & Field will pay prize money to the first through fourth place finishers in each Championship event. The prize structure is as follows:
1st - $2,500
2nd - $1,500
3rd - $500
4th - $500
I presume the slowest winning time in the history of the meet?
Looked like a nice little 800 meter leisurely jog followed by a short race. I'm surprised nobody tried to pick it up earlier.
Even slower than the W1500 final in London. Of course, the mile is longer.
What is wrong wtih reporters? wrote:
Has there ever been a National level race this slow before? In any nation? It is more than 50 seconds lower than the WR. Well, I guess I don't know what the indoor WR is for women, but it is more than 45 seconds slower at least.
Could men ever run a 4:35 for a national championship?
I have seen plenty of 8:00-8:10 type races in a 3k, but even that is less than 45 seconds off the indoor WR for 3k.
I could see a National level race being won this slowly for a 3rd rate nation where the girls are at 4:50 under the best circumstances (although I don't know what nation that would be in this era). But I can't see it when the girls in this race have proven they are capable of better than 4:30y indoors.
Bravo for Cain, it may be even more impressive that she won this kind of race than a 4:28 style honest race, but it is a shame nonetheless for the whole field.
I think these slow tactical races are a shame for the entire field minus one.
xenonscreams wrote:
Looked like a nice little 800 meter leisurely jog followed by a short race. I'm surprised nobody tried to pick it up earlier.
Now she knows what a Kenyan or Ethiopian feels like. ;->
Bum wrote:
Wow, apparently many of you don't know the meaning of the word "race". The ONLY thing that you should aspire to do in a race is win. Period. Everything else is secondary, and fairly irrelevant. The sooner you learn this, the sooner you can become a decent runner. Here endeth the lesson.
Exactly. Championship race, time doesn't matter. Sole purpose is to win.
A slow race is an empty victory.
That was definitely not a National Championship race. It was an embarrassment because of how slow it was. If I was in attendance, I would have wanted my money back because the product was not satisfactory. That time would not have won many high school state championships. She would not have even qualified for Nationals if it was based on that poor race.
You guys who continue to get hung up on the finishing time are hopeless. If you can't understand the disadvantage of front-running in a championship race then you should consider following more than just prep and college competition. Altruistically leading the field to an honest pace is interchangeable with setting up the eventual race winner. If you had a kick strong enough to win wire-to-wire why would you gamble when you could just sit on any pace then kick to win anyway? Go to youtube, pull up any championship race and watch how it's done.
Here's a quote from Mary:“I know the time was really slow but going into it, I was like ‘Hey I’m a kicker. I can control the race, keep it slow and then kick it out,’” said Cain to Ato Boldon after the race on the NBC Sports broadcast.She purposely went out slow to control the pace and then unleash her kick. Salazar undoubtedly guided her in telling her how to position herself to control the race. So for all of you unhappy with the slow time, blame Mary?
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You guys who continue to get hung up on the finishing time are hopeless. If you can't understand the disadvantage of front-running in a championship race then you should consider following more than just prep and college competition. Altruistically leading the field to an honest pace is interchangeable with setting up the eventual race winner. If you had a kick strong enough to win wire-to-wire why would you gamble when you could just sit on any pace then kick to win anyway? Go to youtube, pull up any championship race and watch how it's done.
Bo'Cain is a helluva runner.
Can someone answer me this.
Does anyone have times for her when she was younger, running sprints up to 400m? Did she ever used to do sprints? How long has she been specialising in longer distances?
The reason I ask is this - my theory is that in most distance races, where the runners have similar training backgrounds, the fastest one will win.
to each their own wrote:
A slow race is an empty victory.
WTF?
You're kidding, right?
Go and tell that to an Olympic Champion who wins in a slow tactical race.
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You guys who continue to get hung up on the finishing time are hopeless. If you can't understand the disadvantage of front-running in a championship race then you should consider following more than just prep and college competition. Altruistically leading the field to an honest pace is interchangeable with setting up the eventual race winner. If you had a kick strong enough to win wire-to-wire why would you gamble when you could just sit on any pace then kick to win anyway? Go to youtube, pull up any championship race and watch how it's done.
At that pace, however, a number of 400 runners could have been National Champ at the mile, and maybe that 400 runner was Mary. The race is of course a product of the field that toe the line, but that one was like a sprint cycling race where all but the final sprint is irrelevant. For some reason, women seem to take this to the extreme 1M-Marathon, all the time. Why not have Bolt walk around the track with a bunch of guys 6-7 times, spank everyone and call it a Mile. I bet there are a number of women in that race, wishing they had run it differently. It was a silly race, but congrats to Mary for getting the win.
There are NO female runners whose primary event is the 400 who could have beaten Cain in that race. None.
Finisher wrote:
At that pace, however, a number of 400 runners could have been National Champ at the mile, and maybe that 400 runner was Mary. The race is of course a product of the field that toe the line, but that one was like a sprint cycling race where all but the final sprint is irrelevant. For some reason, women seem to take this to the extreme 1M-Marathon, all the time. Why not have Bolt walk around the track with a bunch of guys 6-7 times, spank everyone and call it a Mile. I bet there are a number of women in that race, wishing they had run it differently. It was a silly race, but congrats to Mary for getting the win.