Cheserek gunning for Lindgren's 8:40.0 HS 2-mi record

Recognizer of Ignorance wrote:

Breaking News man wrote:

Lindgren's record was not on a certified track and most likely short. The guy was good but not that good. He was also not man since he left his family like a coward.

Is that how you manage to get through this world, by judging others?

Well, I suppose if it helps you...

Which part was ignorant?

Fact He left his family like a coward.

Fact No certification for that track or the record.

Sorry it appears the only one who is ignorant is you. But I hope you judging me ignorant helps you.

No you did not receive a legal notice, but you did just get served

VIPAM wrote:

What's the difference between 18.5 and 19?

The cutoff for age to run in Footlocker is that the runner cannot be 19 and when Edward won his second Footlocker title he was age 18 ... Edward Cheserek age is NOW 19 as published in IAAF site: DOB 2-2-1994.

If the talented Edward breaks Lindgren's 8:40.2 HS 2 mile record would be one of the greatest performances in American HS distance running ever!

Are you serious?

The difference is 6 months, which is huge at the high school level. Lukas was the normal age for a high school senior.

Did Cheserek pick his college yet same goes for Kendall Williams on the ladies side hope to get a quack from both of them and that they make the right pick and pick Oregon.

Agreed on Lukas, a marvelous HS runner as good as there has ever been

Lindgren ran his mark on a legit 160 track in the 1960's get a clue, also ran 4:01.x and 13:44? A time that would get him into Today's NCAA

Put him in a pro race ala Lukas , forward to 2010? Come on now

The best HS runner of all time is Webb or Ryun, like it or not?

WEbb could have easily run under 8:30 in set up two mile

Ryun ran 8:25 as a college frosh or about 7:45 3K

lomong was just as old when he won multiple nys champs.

we get caught up in the story and disregard the facts.

lost boy, 20 years old in h.s.

give him the flag, let him walk. . .

I'm tired of all of this stupid shit by people claiming Cheserek is 20. He is clearly at least three years older than that. Forget all of this "just look at him" moolackey. Look instead that this...http://nj.milesplit.com/athletes/1746332-edward-cheserek/stats

He's barely into his final HS track season, true, but how much has he really improved since he was a sophomore?

Year, 800, mile, two-mile, track 5k

Grade 10 1:52.13, 4:03.29, 8:42.66, 14:02.33

Grade 11 1:49.98, 4:02.21, 8:43.16, 13:57.04

Grade 12 1:59.31, 4:10.94

And in cross country on the same courses

Grade 11 14:20.0, 15:20.5, 14:51.5

Grade 12 14:18.7, 15:21.8, 14:50.0

I will grant that when you win by a ton so much your time is not as telling. But he did not win either of those miles, or either of those 5ks, and was beaten by LV in one of those 2 miles while soloing the other.

Verdict: He has flattened out just like Kenyans tend to do at 23 or 24. I would still take a chance on him as a d1 college coach while acknowledging that he is unlikely to ever run faster than 3:40 1500, 8:00 3k, 13:45 5k.

Disregard the last post as usual posted by a regular poster using a troll username! How sad.

Ok, I forgot that this was not a HS only race and that he will not only be pushed, he'll have someone to chase.

Lots of discussion here about Cheserek's age, nationality, etc. All viable topics of discussion, but my main interest was to see what time do people think he'll actually run?

Prediction time wrote:

my main interest was to see what time do people think he'll actually run?

He will run as a man in his 20s, against other men mostly in their 20s, as it should be.

I think he will run 8:37.35 in a yoman effort that leaves him far off the pace, off splits of this nature:

2:06, 2:10, 2:11, 2:10

Breaking News man wrote:

Recognizer of Ignorance wrote:

Is that how you manage to get through this world, by judging others?

Well, I suppose if it helps you...

Which part was ignorant?

Fact He left his family like a coward.

Fact No certification for that track or the record.

Sorry it appears the only one who is ignorant is you. But I hope you judging me ignorant helps you.

No you did not receive a legal notice, but you did just get served

Once again clearly demonstrating your ignorance. I am in no way defending Lindgren. Nor am I condemning him. I am simply choosing not to judge that which I am not in a position to judge.

As has been stated in another thread:

"I agree with the poster that said we never really do know our spouses, sons, and daughters. The fact is that a lot of people have a dark side.

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If we are talking about 99% of the people whom we 'know' then I agree that we do not really know them.

If you do not know your spouse, son, daughter...then there is a problem."

You in all your brilliance know nothing really about Lindgren. You babble off a few facts as if this somehow captures the life of a human being. This is ignorance in the extreme.

Oh yes, I forgot to add your cute little rhetorical flourish - No you did not receive a legal notice, but you did just get served. Very cute. Very impressive indeed.

He had a stress fracture early in XC this year, i suppose that explains the lack of improvement in the fall. Also, please remember this athlete doesn't have Alberto Salazar as his coach, some coaches don't know how to build from year to year, especially with potential such as Edward's.

Breaking News man wrote:

Recognizer of Ignorance wrote:

Is that how you manage to get through this world, by judging others?

Well, I suppose if it helps you...

Which part was ignorant?

It's lowlifes like you that made this the cesspool that it is. Why don't you do everybody a favor and crawl back in the sewer you came out of.

Planet of the Apes wrote:

a 20 year old Kenyan going for a high school record ? Who cares ?

Couldn't agree with you more. Cheserek's, and, for that matter, Lalang, and the rest of the pro runners from Kenya of indeterminate age, should not be mentioned in the context of any American records. Period. There is a sad legacy of age cheating among their ranks, for starters, but more fundamentally, they do not belong in the amateur American high school or college circuits. Simply ridiculous. If these runners are serious about running, let them compete for their own country, in the pro circuit, wherever they want to in the world, but do not allow them to undermine and destroy the amateur running scene in America.

8:39 poeple!!

http://branchsportstech.com/2013_Meets/indoor/02-16-millrose/Results39-1.htm

Breaking News man wrote:He was also not man since he left his family like a coward.

So it sounds like he still holds the boys HS record?

Edward Cheserek 8:39.15 break Lindgren 2 mile HSR which stood for over 45 years!

LOL at all his Letsrun's HATERS.

Edward Cheserek 2 mile 8:39.15 HSR 16 Feb 2013

Radiocarbon Dater wrote:

I think he will run 8:37.35 in a yoman effort that leaves him far off the pace, off splits of this nature:

2:06, 2:10, 2:11, 2:10

Anyone know what Cheserek's splits were? R.D. was probably pretty close as I believe the announcer said that Cheserek was 4:15 at the mile.

Who cares if he supposedly broke it.

He's an overage Kenyan even by the official age.

He's lived in the U.S. for just 2 years. He's an overage ringer and I will be so disgusted if they let him keep this record. An embarrassment to the sport.

Not to quibble, but Cheserek's record doesn't really resonate with serious track folks, is there anyone in high school right now capable of legitimately breaking Lindgren's 8:40 come March/nationals? Doesn't seem like Burcham is a 2 mile sort, and 8:40 is just smokin' for someone 18 or under.