to give an example, ryan hall ran a road mile not long after boston and how did that go? kawauchi ran 3:50 for 1500m just after a 2:11. impressive.
to give an example, ryan hall ran a road mile not long after boston and how did that go? kawauchi ran 3:50 for 1500m just after a 2:11. impressive.
lsjlasj wrote:
He don't need no coach, he got PEDS.
Principles, ethics and discipline, yes.
Interesting. Do you have any further information on these Dutch Marathoners? I am guessing they were from the 70s or 80s which was before I took up running.
The point I was trying to make is that the old school approach seems to have become very uncommon Europe(there could be many reasons for this). As a result, relatively few talented distance runners will continue to train seriously if they are unable to become professional, which I think has impacted the depth in standards in European distance running.
Why hasn't Yuki Kawauchi serve in a U.S. front-line offensive combat infantry outfit ?
The fastest Dutch marathoner is still Gerard Nijboer at 2:09:01 which may have been the fastest marathon ever at the time depending on whether the course where Clayton did his 2:08:33 was accurate. Nijboer was the silver medallist in the marathon at Moscow, so he ran during the era you mentioned. I've never known anything more about him. The only other notable Dutch marathoner I can recall was Piet van Alpen who had the over 50 record, 2:22 or 2:25 or so. Someone here will know.
Thanks for this information. It would be interesting to know if Niijboer was one of those "amateur" Dutch marathoners that Skater mentioned in this thread. I think that the current Dutch record holder for the marathon is Kamiel Masse with 2-08xx in either Rotterdam or Berlin. He is a veteran now so maybe those Dutch veteran marks will be soon revised.
Looking again at reports of Kawauchi's career so far, he seems to race a huge amount, including many marathon races in a single year. I wonder if he just counts the races as his speed workout for the week, and if he does a marathon for the weekend, whether he counts that as his fast long run for the week. In this case, for most of his working-week days, he will be doing just "easy" or "steady" running.
Right. I'd forgotten about Masse. I'd liked to have known more about Nijboer. He really didn't get much exposure in the US in his prime. I don't know if he ever raced here.
Kawauchi says he wants to run 61 minutes at the World Half this week. His PR is 1:02:18. Bets on whether he gets it?
I once ran a 1:30 half marathon then a 25 second 200m. Same thing? No? K thanks bye.
He called it a "Race Week/non-Race Week" schedule. It's been discussed here many times but somehow doesn't seem to penetrate the general consciousness. It goes something like this:
Day 1 Long run
2- Time trial, 5-10 km
3- aerobic run
4- mid long aerobic run
5 Reps, something like 6x800, 3-4xmile, etc.
6 easy aerobic run
7 time trial, 5-10km (probably the distance you didn't do on Day 2. You could also put some "fast, relaxed strides" onto one of the "aerobic run" days.This is the non-race week.
Race Week
Day 1 Long aerobic run
2 Time trial, 5-10 km.
3 Easy aerobic run
4 Mid long aerobic run
5 Reps, along the line of last week. He was never fussed about what sorts of reps you do.
6 Easy aerobic run
7 Race.
Repeat.
So...2:11 then 1500 PR....EPO anybody?
This probably went under the radar of many due to all the news concerning Lance Armstrong at the time but Kawauchi won his third straight marathon at the Chiba Aqualine Marathon on Oct 21. He managed 2-17.48 finishing just over 10 mins ahead of 2nd place. He has another three 1/2 marathons and a 30km race lined up before he goes for 2:07 at Tokyo!
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.fr/2012/10/kawauchi-completes-hat-trick-with-win.html
With this frequency of racing I am inclined to think that his speed workout for the week is usually a weekend race.