Either the timing, the track, or both are bogus in London

go for it........if u saw mj try to speech his way out of the slave bs on the bbc broadcast saying jamaica are good cos its there national sport and what not,but then what about sprinters in the US, so the white boy sits home plays ps3 and blacks are running from cops all the time?????....how does mj explain this different,both races exposed to the sames sports in the us right???

at least mj knows there is some advantage, but to say because 80% white athletes tested have the fast gene polymorphism vs 97% in the black ones means white guys have the ability to be at the very top but not enough of them are trying to get to the top is total crap.........and IMO at the highest level of competition the intersection of bell curves of normal distrubution (representing this ideal cocktail of genes amongst different races, assuming the distrubtion is like this, i am no statiscian) would comprise 5% of the black pop (running sub 10) and maybe 1% of the whites under that same part of the curve, be it at the very first part where the lowest of that 5% of blacks are, i.e christophe le matire.

anyway back on the subject,all i know is for bolt to knock off 2 yards of his 100m in a matter of weeks, exceptional, i ll have what hes having bar tender

I swear I'll stop smoking crack if I can just make sense of this thread!

Good Troll, even got the brothers to post it on the main page. But to think it is anything besides the combination of better athletes (doping or not) and a better track technology is ridiculous (AND the fact that it's the biggest event per four years!). Just think logically:

1. 'Maybe the track is short?' No way, they would be found out the first time someone takes a wheel to the track and proclaims WAIT A MINUTE IT'S SHORT!

2. 'Maybe the clocks are running slow?' No way, it's video recorded all over the place, not only via NBC and BBC but also on people's cell phones.

So what else is there????

We will never forget:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4710616&page=0

Just Wundering wrote:

Lots of juice at just the right time results in fabulous times. Never fails.

Didn't fail in 2003?

What he said wrote:

Mrr82 wrote:

My thoughts are you are on crack.

My thoughts are that you are unqualified to chime in on this topic.

Your thoughts would be wrong. They really should have an IQ test on these boards to ban people like you. Mrr82 is almost always right, and we have to deal with faceless morons like you who just post crap with no justification.

Im not faceless. And what IQ exactly would you use as the cutoff for banishment. Why don't we just ban JV javelin throwers from commenting on sprinting? Fair enough?

The English certainly don't need American technicians, scientists, or engineers to perform calculations for them. They have the worlds number one ranked university and a higher per capita of Nobel Prize winners, for example. How can you calculate the last mile time Farah ran today? It must be measured with a timer over a marked distance if it is a true time. Of course, maybe the BBC did not report accurately and did convert from 1600m to the mile.

The 1908 London Olympics established the current marathon distance of 26 miles 385 yards. Similarly, the London 2012 Olympic marathon was measured in miles and yards.

From Wikipedia:

The United States is the only industrialized country that does not use the metric system as its official system of measurement, although the metric system has been officially sanctioned for use there since 1866. Although the United Kingdom committed to officially adopting the metric system for many measurement applications, it is still not in universal use there and the customary imperial system is still in common and widespread use

Further, the English are reluctant to accept ideas from the European mainland, whether this be the (French) metric system or the Euro monetary unit.

The Brits are wise to follow the lead of the US. But apparently you don't know that even metric tracks have start lines for the 1 mile. It would be simple for that American helping the BBC to determine the time of the final mile.

What he said wrote:

Im not faceless. And what IQ exactly would you use as the cutoff for banishment. Why don't we just ban JV javelin throwers from commenting on sprinting? Fair enough?

You are faceless. You also show how pathetic you are. Knowledge and intelligence do not come from what event you do. Most athletes on here are morons and idiots, and many of them become horrible coaches. You would be one of those ignorant losers.

Sprintgeezer, you need to create a new user name and start fresh. You have proven your one of the least knowledgeable people on these boards regarding track. Btw that's being kind, you actually have no knowledge of track and im wondering whether you have ever done it.

Saratogaxc04 wrote:

You are faceless. You also show how pathetic you are. Knowledge and intelligence do not come from what event you do. Most athletes on here are morons and idiots, and many of them become horrible coaches. You would be one of those ignorant losers.

That's not what your mom told me last night.

rimot wrote:

Good Troll, even got the brothers to post it on the main page. But to think it is anything besides the combination of better athletes (doping or not) and a better track technology is ridiculous (AND the fact that it's the biggest event per four years!). Just think logically:

1. 'Maybe the track is short?' No way, they would be found out the first time someone takes a wheel to the track and proclaims WAIT A MINUTE IT'S SHORT!

2. 'Maybe the clocks are running slow?' No way, it's video recorded all over the place, not only via NBC and BBC but also on people's cell phones.

So what else is there????

I"VE GOT IT! They measured the track with a Garmin :)

Do you not think the IOC had this track measured in order for it to be ratified for the games. Did they just lay a track and say "ok, games on...everybody come on"? You are stupid.

surely there is no mile line about 9 meters from the finish where they might get such a split.

Also..Omega Timing is timing the meet. They have a little experience timing events. Sorry for the "stupid" comment. I just think people dig for $hit just to start a thread.

Aurora Borealis wrote:

Because no one wants to run an honest pace (see: no balls).

Except those three Japanese ladies in the 10k & the 5k. Balls all the way for them.

rimot wrote:

Good Troll, even got the brothers to post it on the main page. But to think it is anything besides the combination of better athletes (doping or not) and a better track technology is ridiculous (AND the fact that it's the biggest event per four years!). Just think logically:

1. 'Maybe the track is short?' No way, they would be found out the first time someone takes a wheel to the track and proclaims WAIT A MINUTE IT'S SHORT!

2. 'Maybe the clocks are running slow?' No way, it's video recorded all over the place, not only via NBC and BBC but also on people's cell phones.

So what else is there????

First of all, as said many times before, the "Super Hot on LetsRun" thing on the homepage is automated by how many views a thread gets. No one "posts it" there.

Second, I think you and most people in this thread are being a little too harsh on the OP. I had thoughts along the same lines after the first couple days of competition actually. And those thoughts led me to not put as much stock in times throughout these two weeks when measuring the overall quality of a performance. For example, I was a lot more impressed with Duane Solomon and Nick Symmonds going 4-5 than I was with them running under 1:43. People asked Lolo Jones if she got any solace in running a time that would have medaled at any other Olympics and she said no and that didn't mean anything to her. And my thoughts were, "I agree, it shouldn't because there was no way you weren't running fast on this super fast track; everyone was."

That said, I never thought it was a timing malfunction or a short track. There is no way they messed up the timing for every race and while it could be hypothetically possible to screw up the placement of lines on the track, I highly doubt that would happen at the Olympics.

No, I just credit the fast times to a very very fast track. Maybe the fastest track ever. It's very "hard" from what I've heard and that makes for super fast sprint times. And it's not just the surface. The stadium and track were built to greatly reduce wind resistance. I've read articles about other features as well (maybe I'll google them later). There's a lot that went into building this stadium and clearly it worked.

And that's not to take away from the performances. They are still World Records; they covered the distance in that time. And peaking and quality of competition have a lot to do with it obviously. Improvement in technology is just part of sport though. World records used to be run on cinder tracks. Modern tracks are obviously a lot faster and this London track even faster still.

But when it comes down to it, I believe the performances were aided by the track. All these times weren't getting put out at once on your standard track. So the OP was right to suggest something is up, but I think it's just the technology behind the track, rather than any mistake in construction.

Those are my thoughts anyway.