The race that Tarmoh ABSOLUTELY had to nail was Monaco. It was her chance for redemption and to show she was able to handle the pressure. She caved like a sand castle in a Tsunami.
rojo is so messed up on this I don't know where to start.
The race that Tarmoh ABSOLUTELY had to nail was Monaco. It was her chance for redemption and to show she was able to handle the pressure. She caved like a sand castle in a Tsunami.
rojo is so messed up on this I don't know where to start.
Unbelievable wrote:
Unbelievable wrote:The prior poster was right. Letsrunners are the biggest whiners, especially one of the founders. If I did not know better I'd think rojo was about 16 with this post.
The fact that a wrong initial decision was made does not make her screwed any more than the girl who was in bronze position in gymnastics before the protest was filed that resulted in the American score being adjusted and replacing her. Mistakes happen. You can be adult about it, or juvenile. She has been juvenile, and so are you.
Last night there was a protest that resulted in a gymnast sitting in bronze position being knocked down when a scoring error was corrected and the American ended up moving to bronze. Was the person knocked down "screwed" because her hopes had been raised by an error, and the error subsequently corrected?
No. The only person screwed is one where the error is not corrected and the wrong person ends up on top.
Grow up Rojo, I'd think you were 16 from this post.
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Well said , the relay coach watches the practices , they see who is on or off , no one is guaranteed a spot on the relay , goal is to medal with the best team possible. If she would have focused her efforts on being the best relay leg possible , showing speed and sharp crisp handoffs , trust me she would be on the final team. She didn't she isn't.
Track proud: last I looked Max Siegel is not white! Not sure why you're being racist on let's run?
No alone wrote:
No. The only person screwed is one where the error is not corrected and the wrong person ends up on top.
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Felix was the wrong person to end up on top in that race though.
First of all, I don't believe she was screwed at the trials.
Secondly, even if it was a poor call, there are poor calls in every sport. How you respond to them reveals your character.
Thirdly, she got what athletes in no other sport get after a call that goes against them - a 2nd chance, and she refused it.
Fourth, I think the IAAF rule applies only to breaking ties for 1st place. There is nothing for 3rd place. That's why there have been ties at the Olympics. In fact, at the last Olympics there was a tie for 2nd in the womens' 100m dash so they awarded a silver to two people. There are very few times where a tie has had to be resolved for 3rd place - possibly never at an IAAF or USATF meet. What happened in Eugene clearly indicates there should be a procedure in place, but I would bet that rule will never be needed again in my lifetime.
You can complain that the USATF should have had a rule in place, that they took too long establishing a procedure, that Tarmoh didn't have adequate council, etc. There is no one however, except Tarmoh, that is reponsible for her decisions and behavior since the tie occured. She's acted like a whiney, spoiled brat. That is completely on her and no one else.
I thought her leg during qualifying was pretty mediocre compared to Knights.
That being said USATF shouldn't have bothered to tell her ahead of time that she wouldn't run . That was a mistake. Keep her head on straight in case someone gets hurt and she's needed.
Instead they make it look like they are vindictive - even if that wasn't the reason.
This was inevitable. Tard-mo' is toxic.
There was a better way to resolve this situation--she could have never been named to the relay in the first place. Good reasons could have been given at that time, as I suggested a long time ago. She would have complained at that time, but by now everybody would have forgotten.
Instead they wrongly named her to the team, saw her flame in Monaco, had to put up with her increasingly toxic b.s. until this time, at which point there is no way she could possibly functionally be named to the team.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, because I was absolutely correct, again: If it were up to me, there is no way I would ever have named her to the team in the first place. (Gallagher, do I need to post a link?)
When will people grow up? It's a fairly simple matter of human behavior. She didn't deserve the second chance of the Olympics, it was too soon and too close. She was bound to toxify the team, and to come out swinging against what she sees as injustice, the same as any other person having the emotional maturity of a petulant 11-14 year-old.
The Tard-mo' saga continues. Good for the relay, though, now they have a shot at winning. And I remember Knight having run a killer turn on a previous relay, one of the best I thought I'd ever seen.
Oh, and check out rojo trolling his own board, that is great.
(You WERE trolling, right?)
Honestly, watching the Monaco race and the prelim from yesterday, I think most claims about 'politics' in some form--whether Tarmoh's claims that it's USATF's politics working against her, or posters' claims that she is not on the relay because of her attitude--could be a bit overblown. I'm not excluding the possibility of that going on, but I think people are emphasizing it at the cost of some technical aspects of the relay.
Tarmoh ran the race--and had the start--of her life in the Olympic Trials 100m; but if you look at the relays from yesterday and several weeks ago, you can see she's a bit of a liability in terms of how long it takes for her to get going. The worst exchange yesterday was Madison-Tarmoh, and it was because Madison was almost running into Tarmoh, who was slower than ideal to get moving; a similar dynamic unfolds with the Felix-Tarmoh exchange at Monaco.
With Madison (fast starter), Jeter (fastest overall), and Felix (fastest finisher) more or less guaranteed to run in the final, the only leg Tarmoh was realistically going to run was the third leg; and with her 200m experience, that makes sense. But Knight may simply have proved over the weeks that she's a faster-starting bend runner than Tarmoh, who still has some more work to do.
Tarmoh needs to grow up. Sick of her nonsense. Keep your mouth shut and let you're running do the talking.
I wouldn't have her anywhere near the team. Nobody owes her anything.
Harry Carey wrote:
Honestly, watching the Monaco race and the prelim from yesterday, I think most claims about 'politics' in some form...could be a bit overblown...
The worst exchange yesterday was Madison-Tarmoh, and it was because Madison was almost running into Tarmoh, who was slower than ideal to get moving; a similar dynamic unfolds with the Felix-Tarmoh exchange at Monaco.
Here was Monaco:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlf2b8cP-AMHere was the semi:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track-and-field/highlights-u-s-women-advance-to-4x100m-relay-final.htmlYeah, I'd say Tarmoh doesn't know what the hell she's doing on the relay.
Another Option wrote:
Fourth, I think the IAAF rule applies only to breaking ties for 1st place. There is nothing for 3rd place. That's why there have been ties at the Olympics. In fact, at the last Olympics there was a tie for 2nd in the womens' 100m dash so they awarded a silver to two people. There are very few times where a tie has had to be resolved for 3rd place - possibly never at an IAAF or USATF meet. What happened in Eugene clearly indicates there should be a procedure in place, but I would bet that rule will never be needed again in my lifetime.
You can complain that the USATF should have had a rule in place, that they took too long establishing a procedure, that Tarmoh didn't have adequate council, etc. There is no one however, except Tarmoh, that is reponsible for her decisions and behavior since the tie occured. She's acted like a whiney, spoiled brat. That is completely on her and no one else.
The IAAF only breaks ties for advancement. Nor for 1st place (duplicate golds would be awarded) and not for 3rd place (duplicate bronze). When they need to break a tie for advancement from a prelim to a semi-final or a semi-final to a final then the tiebreaking procedure would come into place. In the case of London they also have an extra lane, so they would only have to break a tie for advancement if it was a 3 way tie (to the .001, pretty unlikely but not impossible).
Forget Monaco.
Tarmoh ran a great leg in the Olympic semis and had great exchanges. They almost broke the Olympic record without Felix and Jeter.
And she was top 4 at the Trials.
She should be on the team in the finals.
Madison to Tarmoh to Felix to Jeter
Felix to Tarmoh sounds a little scary but it makes sense since Tarmoh just ran a good second leg and as a 200m specialist Felix is good on the curve.
You take a 41.64 team (which ran faster then the Jamaican record), replace Bianca Knight with Allyson Felix and Lauren Williams with Carmelita Jeter.
Sounds Golden.
I don't like the whining either but Tarmoh has 100% earned that spot on the team in the final.
Tarmoh is lucky that her pass off didn't get missed. She dropped the baton downwards in the semis like she was chopping. She is lucky she wasn't chopping into thin air: Disaster for U.S. team.
mob mentality wrote:
Tarmoh ran the race of her life EXACTLY WHEN SHE NEEDED TO to finish the 100 in 3rd.
What she needed to do was finish in the top three. She didn't. She finished in the top four (by virtue of her tie with Felix).
I'm not saying she didn't have a great performance. She did, and it's a shame things turned out the way they did. Nonetheless, that's life.
She and everybody else knew she couldn't run that race again and beat Felix.
So, they tied once, and Felix would win any other time they raced, and yet we should send Tarmoh to the Olympics? How is that sensible?
Finally, her tweeting about her problems with USATF is immature.
yes, but its Pharmilata Cheater
NBC Sucks wrote:
If they were really looking out for USA's best interests they'd take Pharmalita Jeter off the team. When she tests positive the whole team will lose their medals.
What the hell was on head
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Tarmoh has to live and learn. Being a crybaby doesn't get you what you want. If she did the run off, win or lose, things would be different. By the way, Felix ran great in the 100, Tarmoh probably wouldn't have made the finals in the 100.
I think some of you guys are forgetting that Coach Drummond is not an idiot when it comes to relays.
- Jeter and Felix are the best straightaway runners the USA has, while Tiana ran great at the Trials and in the Semi yesterday.
- Bianca is a fantastic turn runner - superior to Tarmoh in that spot and a she's strong with the baton.
- Tarmoh has made herself out to be a big baby since the Trials. She should've raced Felix because that's what track and field is about.
- Now she needs to STFU and be a good teammate and cheer her team to the gold medal - everyone else is a better option than her at the relay spots they are running. Who would you take off?
btw - get off Carmelita already, it's wrong to speculate about someone being a doper and you have no facts.
My sentimental pick for the Final would be: Madison-Tarmoh-Felix-Knight
But what Drummond would most likely pick is: Madison-Tarmoh-Felix-Jeter
So sorry to Knight and Hill.
I think Felix is the strongest turn runner and Jeter is the best finisher.
My only fear (unfounded at best) is if they win gold and get the WR and then Jeter tests positive down the road, then all is lost....but that is just speculation.
Go USA!
Track proud wrote:
unfortuanately USATF is no longer run by some old White Man, but in stead by a Black Woman and her cronies, who controls all aspects of the Organization.
But that black woman is married to a white man and every letsrunner knows a man's job is to control his wife.
This Ergotismic mindset leads the bright minded to understand that an Old British White Man controls USAT&F.