Kyle Merber 3:35.59 is NOT the American Collegiate Record

anonomie me · 2012-05-15T23:18:53-04:00

First, there is no official record. Second, many D1 schools count your performances in the summer before you graduate. It is a unique situation, in that track has both a college season and an open season. Centrowitz's time is superior, and he was representing the USA via Oregon at the date of his superior time. He enrolled in classes in the fall -- and only after that -- decided that in a Olympic year that his best strategy was to turn pro and start prepping for the Trials. The NCAA makes a ton off of the backs of athletes (NCAA) there really is no need to punish a Centrowitz for making a career decision - pre-season, after the last season was completed (when he ran his "record" time.) It's a goofy situation. The fastest collegiate time ever run is Centrowitz's. You can be sure that his time will be considered Oregon's school record -- as he was still a student and pre-pro. The colleges help fund our Olympic development program with track and field scholarships... IF you are a fan of the sport...can you really say that you would rather see Centrowitz's time Not Honored / Acknowledged...just because of how screwed up both the NCAA and USATF are?? Not to mention the anomaly that is our sport? Centrowitz ran in good faith at the NCAA's last year, and qualified for and won the USATF title last year, in good faith, and qualified to continue his season at the WC's and as part of that prep, that NCAA Athlete honored the NCAA and his school by winning a bronze medal at world's. Oh, and btw, since the NCAA doesn't keep such records...only TFN does... TFN is then self anointed to make the rules? TFN is not some hallowed institution...it is just a magazine run by some track geek geezers who do their best to do...as they see fit... That doesn't mean their decision should be considered the be all and end all. With TFN's standard, and the standard of other posters here... An NCAA student could run a 3:34.59 in July...and that would not count as NCAA record, per TFN's decision. Let's just make it simple. We all know that last "track season," for the purposes of any NCAA track athlete, was BOTH the NCAA meets and any World meets they could be good enough to qualify for. THAT is how it plays out in real life...if I run well enough during my college season, then I get to keep running at USA's and if I place in the top 3 there, I get to run in DL meets and at World's. So now we are going to neglect a kid's accomplishment....simply because of the anomalies of our sports realities and schedules? Let's not be so fast to give Kyle Merber "the record." His accomplishment is great, and thrilling, a great surprise and inspiring etc. But, let's not forget that Centrowitz's time was funded mostly by his NCAA scholarship. Let's not punish an athlete for excelling ahead of schedule and then being faced with an unexpected set of circumstances (staying in college or training for the Olympics.)

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14 years ago 05/17/2012 8:13pm EDT

re: otto von shart

that Swarthmore meet is in many ways the definition of what is wrong with the sport today.

Can you go five minutes without pontificating on "the sport," please?

14 years ago 05/18/2012 1:36pm EDT

re: anonomie me

Way too much confusion here. The kid ran fast, period.

However, if any of us are really trying to put a spin on who is the most impressive of the above, I think Ryun takes it by a mile, no pun intended! SAme goes for the HS mile record. While Webb ran faster, I imagine Ryuan's effort was more impressive, given the time period, facilities,competition etc....

Also, if we want to disect whose 1500m was legit based upon pros being in the race, legitimacy of collegiate status and caliber of meet, I want to remind all that Joe Falson ran 3:35.8? back in 88 on a hot windy day in Fayetteville with no pros, no pacers, and 2nd place 9 seconds back. If that does not make his extra special, he claimed to have been in the ER with his wife from 2am-8am, giving him no sleep before his high noon race. But then again, he has the NCAA record for the biggest fish story (while wearing his college uniform!)

14 years ago 05/18/2012 2:10pm EDT

re: Nogales

Rojo? You actually said this?

"Actually, he didn't actually run the record in season. The meet at Swarthmore was the day after the qualifying for D1 regionals ended"

Certainly you were kidding.

I do not think anyone considers the college season over with Regionals and a Major Championship still to run

So, College basketball is over after the Conf Tournaments

Some would argue it JUST begins with the NCAA Tourney

another just shocking commentary by you

14 years ago 05/18/2012 4:53pm EDT

re: otto von shart

NCAA keeps tecords only for the championship meet and that meet is after the season(per rojo).

So it looks like the truth is their is no in-season or out of season NCAA records only Championship records.

Anyone outside of the NCAA itself that keeps lists and assignes records does so under whatever rules they want to set.

Litte Billy's College records.

E.Gary and the Gang's All Time College Lists

The Brojo's List Of Things They Want To List List

It's Only Make Believe

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