Solinsky is finished

Thank you. Stuff like this drives me crazy. No one uses "let alone" correctly. Those same people also say "I could care less."

I hate those people.[/quote]

People who think they are smart annoy those of us who are.

*stipe wrote:

10,000

Rupp and two others

5,000

Lagat, Rupp and one other

Does anyone disagree? Pick your two other 10,000m guys and one other 5,000m guy.

Agree

Rupp, Ritz, Curtis - Rupp & Ritz trade the pace last few miles

Lagat, Rupp, Bumbalough - 13:20s with a fast last mile. Lagat by 2 seconds.

Yeah I gotta say, I think he's done too. How efficient can you really be if your hamstrings are attached by some titanium screws??? He's got to have some pretty permanent side effects/muscle length discrepancies from that surgery. Does anyone know who the doc was who worked on him??

Too many runners are getting injured with incidents involving their dogs...........Ritz and now Solinsky

Solinsky should not worry about 2012. Get healthy. He is not finished if he plays it smart. I don't get why a 5000 guy wants to run all those 120 mile weeks. Sure you get strong, but isn't the idea to run 12.5 laps at a 61-62 pace?

Why are you complementing him??? The only reason why I clicked on this thread was to read another of your solinskrap rants.[/quote]

I have never suggested that he had anything less than stellar running ability. It was I who started the thread suggesting that he had the greatest energy output per unit time for distance running:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3959645

His physical ability has never been in question.

All of these guys got injured after their big breakout year:

Solinsky

Webb

Teg

Ritz

The only truly great American distance runners in their class that are still running strong are Rupp, Lagat, and Hall. Hopefully those three don't get hurt this year so we can have someone to watch at the a Olympics for distance running. Centro and Wheating I consider more mid-d.

dude needs time off -- hard to accomplish in an Olympic year.

So, is Bumbalough the best of the Schumacher guys at this point in time?

adfasdf wrote:

All of these guys got injured after their big breakout year:

Solinsky

Webb

Teg

Ritz

You can add Jenny Simpson to that list - becomes world class, turns pro, and was immediately injured.

Teg ran great 2006-07, struggled in the Olympic year, but then was 8th at worlds and ran 12:58 in 2009. Hasn't really gotten back to that fitness/racing yet.

Solinsky is a whiner. Rupp is better, and this injury will not allow him to ever get back to where he was. He's always complaining about something. Rupp and Lagat are the only American hopes in the next 5 years at winning anything. Get used to it.

US distance running will never be up with the African nations. I can't stand the "Let's wait till next year, then the US will be back". We won't be back - our guys suck. The American public likes a winner and I don't see any actual native of the US winning a gold medal in the Olympics or WC's. Face it, the rest of the country doesn't care until there is someone far and above the rest. The US needs a Bekele with personality, and until that happens, distance running won't get any respect, PERIOD.

The series of events leading to his injury look to me like they have more to do with his indoor season. He ran fast 1500s very early. I know that when I'm doing high mileage grinding out the really fast stuff always makes my hamstrings sore. I imagine it was really hard on his body to train and run those short distances after being so accustomed to longer distance running.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

I have the distinct feeling that you guys are underestimating his physical ability.

Umm... what? I thought you hated Solinsky?

Of course I don't "hate" him--I don't even know him.

However, I don't respect recent decisions that I've seen him make, which to me are indicative of a weakness of character.

I do acknowledge the fact that he once held the AR in the 10,000m--but who cares. Records come and go, but the person remains.

Fawn Dorr will never hold an AR, but is twice the man that Solinskrap will ever be.

For me, he was already finished before last season ended.

Too bad, he's actually a fast runner.

I used to think that the idea of Badger miles was pretty cool. No BS, you just divide by 7. You can't fudge things to give yourself more miles.

Now I think it's pretty stupid. Does Chris Solinsky, one of the best distance runner's in American history, really not know how many miles he runs?

"Badger miles" is a cute trick to motivate undergraduates. CS is a professional runner. Counting his miles accurately would probably help him judge his training effort better and could help him prevent further injury.

So has anyone come back from this kind of surgery - having your hamstring reattached - and run at the same level as before?

adfasdf wrote:

The only truly great American distance runners in their class that are still running strong are Rupp, Lagat, and Hall.

Ever heard of Meb Keflezighi?

Yep. It would appear that, against all odds, Bumbalough is now the premier Schumacher pupil. I really, really, really hope Schumacher and Bumbalough are learning their lessons from Solinsky - if they didn't already from Jager's injuries, Teg's injuries, etc. It's great having fast guys, but if you run them into the ground, there's a problem. Hopefully, Bumbalough can maintain his steady progression and not get sucked into 140 miles/week in hopes of speeding up the process.