HEPS track and field--OUTDOOR 2012

DQ? wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypYOYt2OnVE&feature=related

Was the Cornell runner DQ'd for his stunt at 3:25?

Columbia and Princeton combined for a total of 1 athlete in that final. Man, how times have changed.

Conor McCullough 234' today. New league record. Obviously #1 in the country so far, would have put him at #3 on last year's final POP list.

Princeton distance guys showed some depth on Friday at the Monmouth Season Openner. Running the 1 mile (without -their two sub-4 minute guys - Callahan and Stilen) they had 6 under 4:10; 11 under 4:13 and 18 under 4:20. This also did not include Freshmen Mike Mazzarrao and Sam Pons both who ran sub 4:10 in high school.

1 CABRAL, DONN PRINCETON 4:00.96$

2 VAN ACKEREN, TREVOR PRINCETON 4:04.47$

3 BENDTSEN, CHRIS PRINCETON 4:06.38$

4 ARROYO YAMIN, ALEJANDRO PRINCETON 4:07.74$

5 WEAVER, ANDY DELAWARE TC 4:08.45$

6 PATERNOSTRO, BRADLEY PRINCETON 4:09.10

7 WILLIAMS, MICHAEL PRINCETON 4:09.79

8 UDLAND, TYLER PRINCETON 4:10.01

9 DIALYNAS, THOMAS PRINCETON 4:10.07

10 PALMER, FORD MONMOUTH 4:10.79

11 MARTIN, CONNOR PRINCETON 4:11.77

12 PALMISANO, MICHAEL PRINCETON 4:12.00

13 MCDONALD, MATT PRINCETON 4:12.64

14 VITEZ, JONATHAN PRINCETON 4:14.08

15 FRANKIN, MICHAEL PRINCETON 4:14.71

16 OWENS, EDDIE PRINCETON 4:14.87

17 WILSON, SEAN PRINCETON 4:17.74

18 KING, TYLER PRINCETON 4:18.50

19 WEBB, JAMES PRINCETON 4:18.85

20 MAAG, PETER PRINCETON 4:19.61

Cabral's mile time is the 7th best in conference history. Since this is his third time just missing the 4min/mile barrier (twice indoors, once outdoors that I know of), I wonder how many more times he will try to do the mile this year to break it. I bet he can do it if he trains.

http://hepstrack.com/championships/outdoor-heps/mens-outdoor-recordbook/mens-outdoor-heps-all-time-marks/

Oh wow, HepsTrack already updated the all-time listing with Cabral's and McCullough's marks!

C/M Runner wrote:

Cabral's mile time is the 7th best in conference history. Since this is his third time just missing the 4min/mile barrier (twice indoors, once outdoors that I know of), I wonder how many more times he will try to do the mile this year to break it. I bet he can do it if he trains.

http://hepstrack.com/championships/outdoor-heps/mens-outdoor-recordbook/mens-outdoor-heps-all-time-marks/

Oh wow, HepsTrack already updated the all-time listing with Cabral's and McCullough's marks!

And Damon McLean missing the all-time list by 3 inches in the TJ.

Some observations from early-season meet results, as posted on

http://www.tfrrs.org/lists/911.html

(and other sources), and responding to BRF's OP. (And understanding that it's *very* early days yet--Brown hasn't even opened, for instance, and should make an immediate impact in several men's and women's events, once it does.)

Short-sprint action has been limited, with several teams/individuals apparently opting not to compete in the open 100m yet. Cornell men head that abbreviated list, though Ojukwu's 10.62 was their only one not wind-aided. Penn owns the women's short sprints now, but those 100/200 lists will surely be rewritten over the next two weekends. In a small surprise, Cornell's 4x100 squads have already posted times better than those that won last year's Heps titles; their women's 46.21 was without Hewitt.

In the 400, no competitive times yet on the men's side, though Cornell has gone sub-3:14 in the relay; and only one woman under 56 so far (Cornell's freshman Colliesuah), though Cornell and Penn have both posted decent 4x4 times.

You know what? Screw this. It's too early. I'll wait for a couple more weekends' results--nothing really to analyze here. (And TFRRS seems to be down right now anyway.)

Oh, except I think I can predict that McCullough has a good chance of winning the men's hammer...

kibitzer wrote:

Oh, except I think I can predict that McCullough has a good chance of winning the men's hammer...

Unless, (heaven forbid!), he fouls out.

Looks like Mozia could be strong enough to pull the shot/discus double though... from what I understand, the discus is his specialty.

FYI: it looks like the Sam Howell Invite on April 6th and 7th could be a pre-Heps as everyone except Cornell and Brown are scheduled to compete.

C/M Runner wrote:

Looks like Mozia could be strong enough to pull the shot/discus double though... from what I understand, the discus is his specialty.

It would certainly be impressive if a frosh could pull that off! OTOH he was beaten at indoor Heps (by Harvard's Glauser, another frosh); and--I see from a trip to Cornell's team page--Mozia's got a ways to go before he gets the CU freshman record in either event (those stand at a rawther good 61' 8 1/2" and 172' 1").

Ugh. "Wait another couple of weekends" is right--what a miserable day for a track meet in the Northeast. I hope the weather cooperated better for Penn and Princeton, scheduled to compete in Points South.

Anyway, kudos to Ithaca College for getting its meet results uploaded to TFRRS so promptly--and to TFRRS for updating the Ivy list right away with those marks. Anyway, for Cornell--which kept a number of its frontline athletes out of the Ithaca meet--there were only a couple of season's bests that could realistically feature in any handicapping of the Heps.

Mentioning "season's bests" reminds me of a couple questions:

1. For purposes of seeding in the outdoor Heps, are performances from the indoor season allowed?

And, if so, is it only 2012 indoor performances, i.e. nothing from December?

What about indoor marks set during the *outdoor* season? (For instance, it looks like the IC folks held at least one or two events in their indoor facility today.)

2. If indoor marks may be used for seeding, will the TFRRS performances list include those? I see that it doesn't now.

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Sympathies to all who competed in the Northeast today. I used to live in the Rochester, NY, area and can well remember March track meets conducted in blinding (literally--you couldn't see the runners on the backstretch) snowstorms, with meet organizers finally admitting defeat and moving the 10,000m to an indoor facility. I love track and field, but...gack.

Princeton's ND and Distance competed at the Raleigh Relays yesterday and today, see here:

http://www.goprincetontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10600&ATCLID=205406926

Thanks for the link--nice 3:43.60 from Cabral!

WHO F*****G CARES

Guys, Chad's right. Great insight!

chadfan wrote:

Guys, Chad's right. Great insight!

Not unreasonable:

Fortunately, you both now know some of the stuff that's in this thread, so you should be able to avoid clicking on it in future. Whew! Thank goodness, huh?

Mozia threw 62'8" indoors for both the indoor Freshman and indoor school record in the shot, although did not throw well at Heps and has yet to crank one in outdoors, I would be very surprised if both he and Glauser did not go 60 feet in the next couple weeks. Mozia also threw 171 today in the discus, so I would not be surprised if he took home another set of records and some Heps Gold. He and Glauser will most likely be duking it out for the next few years, GREAT RIVALRY!

Gotta love the performances list right now: Princeton has the top eight marks on the 5,000m men's list, and the top fifteen in the 1,500!

Wow, we got some fast times last night!

MEN

1,500m run

3:42.49 — Kyle Merber, Columbia (Stanford)

3:46.97 — Daniel Everett, Columbia (Sam Howell)

3:47.30 — Adam Behnke, Columbia (Sam Howell)

Steeplechase

8:39.92 — Donn Cabral, Princeton (Sam Howell)

8:59.28 — John Gregorek, Columbia (Sam Howell)

9:05.08 — Nathan Richards, Yale (Sam Howell)

9:08.12 - Eddie Owens (Sam Howell)

5,000m run

13:34.49 — Dan Lowry, Brown (Stanford)

13:56.93 — James Leakos, Harvard (Colonial)

14:01.66 — Matt Duffy, Brown (Stanford)

10,000m run

29:24.58 — Brett Kelly, Cornell (Stanford)

29:26.68 — Mike Murphy, Columbia (Stanford)

29:27.00 — Alejandro Arroyo Yamin, Princeton (Sam Howell)

WOMEN

1,500m run

4:22.35 — Greta Feldman, Princeton (Sam Howell)

4:25.52 — Alexis Mikaelian, Princeton (Sam Howell)

4:28.47 — Molly Higgins, Princeton (Sam Howell)

Steeplechase

10:07.58 — Alexi Pappas, Dartmouth (Sam Howell)

10:19.75 — Genna Hartung, Cornell (Stanford)

10:28.57 — Rachel Sorna, Cornell (Stanford)

5,000m run

16:06.00 — Heidi Caldwell, Brown (Stanford)

16:34.43 — Kailyn Kuzmuk, Harvard (Colonial)

16:59.66 — Alison Lanois, Dartmouth (Sam Howell)

10,000m run

32:58.73 — Katie Kellner, Cornell (Stanford)

33:53.06 — Emily Lanois, Columbia (Stanford)

33:59.26 — Olivia Mickle, Brown (Stanford)

Hammer throw

Conor McCullough - 242-10 (Sam Howell)

Conor McCullough - new Ivy League record (2nd time this season)

Dan Lowry - #2 5k of all time behind Jim Sapienza (13:30.79)

Donn Cabral - #3 steeplechase of all time, behind Michael Fadil and himself

Kyle Merber is just outside of the top 10 with his 1500m time.

Heidi Caldwell is just outside of the top 10 with her 5k time

Katie Kellner - #4 10k of all time behind Caroline Bierbaum, Kate O'Neill, and Lindsey Scherf

Emily Lanois - #10 10k of all time

Okay, this is looking like a pretty productive couple of days for the Ivy teams. With the bulk of the weekend's competition yet to come later today (Saturday), there've already been some pretty wholesale rewritings of seasonal performance lists in the distance races, mostly with marks from Stanford and from Princeton's Sam Howell meet. Good steeplechase times from Princeton's Donn Cabral (8:39) and Dartmouth's Alexi Pappas (10:07), plus a sub-33:00 10,000m from Cornell's Katie Kellner.

After all the weekend's dust has settled, I might take a stab at an absurdly-early scoring of a virtual meet. Aaaand I might not, too--no women's 3,000m list at the TFRRS site (yet another good reason to eliminate that event!), and quite limited relay action so far. (The multis will be spotty, too, but that's usually true right up until the Heps meet itself.)

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Still wondering about the following--maybe you Heps-savvy folks know?

1. For purposes of seeding in the outdoor Heps, are performances from the indoor season allowed?

2. IF indoor marks may be used for seeding, will the TFRRS performances list include those? (I see that it doesn't now.)