Dude there is nothing wrong with being nude. If you don't care for it then just don't look its simple. It's all about rollin in that Dough thats it. An where in the bible does it say its no Christian to be nude oooo i forgot you cant find it.
kimchi kardashianuchi wrote:
Yes, ESPN will be showing pictures of erect penises with ejaculations and anal sex among athletes.
Mrs. M wrote:
Did God tell him to do this?
And herein lies the problem: Ryan Hall goes to Bethel Church, Redding, (and a spin off in Mammoth area). Experience trumps the Bible there. Any serious study of the Bible (if it exists there) is secondary to "gut feelings" (aka holy hunches). "God told me" is often stated and rarely in connection with reading a Bible passage.
I like Ryan and am glad that he is vocal about his faith, but his book was embarrassing. His approach to his faith is far removed from orthodox biblical Christianity.
That's how he ends up doing a stunt like this: no decent biblical understanding of nakedness prompts a "What do you think, God?" followed by going with a "holy hunch" in the biblical vacuum that exists.
Again, I really like Ryan and am a big fan. I pray for him - especially that he would drop the authority of experience for the authority of the Bible.
Bible vs Bethel wrote:
Mrs. M wrote:Did God tell him to do this?
And herein lies the problem: Ryan Hall goes to Bethel Church, Redding, (and a spin off in Mammoth area). Experience trumps the Bible there. Any serious study of the Bible (if it exists there) is secondary to "gut feelings" (aka holy hunches). "God told me" is often stated and rarely in connection with reading a Bible passage.
I like Ryan and am glad that he is vocal about his faith, but his book was embarrassing. His approach to his faith is far removed from orthodox biblical Christianity.
That's how he ends up doing a stunt like this: no decent biblical understanding of nakedness prompts a "What do you think, God?" followed by going with a "holy hunch" in the biblical vacuum that exists.
Again, I really like Ryan and am a big fan. I pray for him - especially that he would drop the authority of experience for the authority of the Bible.
Or maybe drop external, unverifiable authority altogether and actually think in the provisional, analytical fashion that allows humans to deal with concrete situations in the real world?
ima beast wrote:
Dude there is nothing wrong with being nude. If you don't care for it then just don't look its simple.
That's the same thing I say about burning crosses on front lawns.
wfwefwwef wrote:
Suspicious wrote:There's nothing wrong with nudity nor is it un-Christian-like nor is it indecent.
wrong
Source???
Rene the Cart wrote:
think in the provisional, analytical fashion that allows humans to deal with concrete situations in the real world?
Are those words supposed to mean something?
Yes, reference is the intended function of words.
I wish I could see Caster Semenya. Oops. Does that make me gay?
Rene the Cart wrote:
Bible vs Bethel wrote:And herein lies the problem: Ryan Hall goes to Bethel Church, Redding, (and a spin off in Mammoth area). Experience trumps the Bible there. Any serious study of the Bible (if it exists there) is secondary to "gut feelings" (aka holy hunches). "God told me" is often stated and rarely in connection with reading a Bible passage.
I like Ryan and am glad that he is vocal about his faith, but his book was embarrassing. His approach to his faith is far removed from orthodox biblical Christianity.
That's how he ends up doing a stunt like this: no decent biblical understanding of nakedness prompts a "What do you think, God?" followed by going with a "holy hunch" in the biblical vacuum that exists.
Again, I really like Ryan and am a big fan. I pray for him - especially that he would drop the authority of experience for the authority of the Bible.
Or maybe drop external, unverifiable authority altogether and actually think in the provisional, analytical fashion that allows humans to deal with concrete situations in the real world?
Hahahaha yes.
gooose wrote:
That's not very Christian
why are you using "Christian" as an adjective?
I'm pretty sure God is a bigger fan of the human body than any of us are. The sacred literature aka Bible explains it as God created humanity in His perfection...not as some afterthought. But hey, whatever...
I've never understood the impassioned anti-God sentiment. Unfortunately Christianity has been hijacked by people that
a) don't understand it and then make it into what suits them
b)use it as a battering ram/a tool to condemn the world
On another note, and this is more to the atheist, i don't understand the rationale of hating something you don't believe exists. For instance, I have NEVER been angry at unicorns...never...not once. But throw Jesus into the conversation and everyone goes postal. And plenty, if not ALL of us have had bad experiences with "Christians" that had no earthly idea what they were talking about or doing. Christianity is from the Middle East...an Eastern Religion. Ok, everyone breathe. (Especially the Christians)
Jesus was not WHITE....ok, breathe, breathe, it will be ok.
That we would see Him as He is...
And whether you or I believe God exist or not. Or He is who He says He is doesn't change whether He exists. I believe He does...And if He does then we all have plenty to concern ourselves with.
Ok...let's go.
Here's some quick mindless drivel for you to peruse. Sorry I can't communicate better, it's a huge flaw of mine....
I just can't wrap my head around the basis of religion, specifically Christianity. Sometimes I wish someone could break it down for me in a logical way so I could believe it and maybe things would be better for me. It is all just way too fantastic to me.
To answer your concern over the "hate" you feel from athiests, I'll give you my point of view. I get frustrated when people look down on me for being athiest so I am very defensive about my beliefs. 99/100 times I won't tell people I'm an athiest just so they won't think less of me. And I am fully aware of the fact that many religious people think poorly about athiests because I hear the disscusion between religious people when they talk about athiests. I don't think I'm far off, or that my opinion is too slanted because I have lived around the country for the past 15 years and have interacted with a wide spectrum of people in many different environments. Because people don't know I am an athiest they will speak about "non-belivers" in a very negative way right in front of me. Here are common themes from these interactions: Athiest=satan worshipper, communist, un-American, unfit, weak-minded, anarchist, trouble maker, lazy, stupid. Additionally, they should not have children and are invariably leading their children down a path that will make their lives fruitless and draining to the overall health of society.
I think the last opinion bothers me the most because I have 2 children and raise them in an open, honest and loving environment. I am by no means perfect when it comes to parenting, but I feel that my children will grow up satisfied knowing that their parents love them unconditionally.
PS I don't care about Hall being in the magazine, those issues have always been kind of strange to me anyway.
I fail to see the logistics of chicks possibly admiring a male runners body. What's the worst that can happen? A few girls will actually be attracted to a male runner? Honestly, if you're a scrawny 130 lb punk, it just-can't-get-any-worse. You have nothing to lose.
You should be hoping he goes off the bottom of the page.
And by the way, last year's nude mag was amazing. Best nude( maybe even sports) photography that I've seen. I still have it around here somewhere (phew... hope solo...)
Alicia Sacremone"spelling" is a goddess i'm in love with her :)
City Stockbroker wrote:
Full frontal nudity? Yes I'd do it, if it was valid. Or if the money was valid, and if it were a very small part.
You won't have any problem with the "small part," at least.
Suspicious wrote:
There's nothing wrong with nudity nor is it un-Christian-like nor is it indecent.
Especially if you moan, "Oh God" while you jerk the gerkin looking at it
wfwefwwef wrote:
What the... there goes every bit of respect I had for the man. He holds up an image of personal decency to the world and then smears sh.it all over it by doing this filthy gig -- disgusting.
What are you even talking about? This isn't Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue. If you read the article, you would see that it is a celebration of the athletic body. Ever heard of nude painting? They do it in art classes at Universities all over the world. Is that filthy and disgusting? Yes, maybe if you're an idiot. Think of this as along the same lines.
So no, I don't think this compromises the image that Hall has presented at all.
loser with a causation wrote:
Here's some quick mindless drivel for you to peruse. Sorry I can't communicate better, it's a huge flaw of mine....
I just can't wrap my head around the basis of religion, specifically Christianity. Sometimes I wish someone could break it down for me in a logical way so I could believe it and maybe things would be better for me. It is all just way too fantastic to me.
To answer your concern over the "hate" you feel from athiests, I'll give you my point of view. I get frustrated when people look down on me for being athiest so I am very defensive about my beliefs. 99/100 times I won't tell people I'm an athiest just so they won't think less of me. And I am fully aware of the fact that many religious people think poorly about athiests because I hear the disscusion between religious people when they talk about athiests. I don't think I'm far off, or that my opinion is too slanted because I have lived around the country for the past 15 years and have interacted with a wide spectrum of people in many different environments. Because people don't know I am an athiest they will speak about "non-belivers" in a very negative way right in front of me. Here are common themes from these interactions: Athiest=satan worshipper, communist, un-American, unfit, weak-minded, anarchist, trouble maker, lazy, stupid. Additionally, they should not have children and are invariably leading their children down a path that will make their lives fruitless and draining to the overall health of society.
I think the last opinion bothers me the most because I have 2 children and raise them in an open, honest and loving environment. I am by no means perfect when it comes to parenting, but I feel that my children will grow up satisfied knowing that their parents love them unconditionally.
PS I don't care about Hall being in the magazine, those issues have always been kind of strange to me anyway.
From one atheist to another... can you please spell it correctly? Please?
Embarrassing.
Athyest