Guys watch out for recently nationally ranked Albertus Magnus, currently ranked ahead of Bowdoin... I am picking them for the win at Regionals and Top 3 at nationals.
Guys watch out for recently nationally ranked Albertus Magnus, currently ranked ahead of Bowdoin... I am picking them for the win at Regionals and Top 3 at nationals.
MOO wrote:
What other schools will be at the Purple Valley Classic at Williams this weekend?
NESCAC school that will be there:
Amherst
Colby
Middlebury
Williams
This meet usually gets some pretty good competition and should shake some regional rankings up.
according to ustfccca nyu will be there
Williams and Midd soundly beat NYU. that should help the case for NE actually getting 5 teams in this year
http://athletics.williams.edu/sports/mxc/2011-12/files/Purple-Valley-Classic_8k_men.pdf
Yeah it would except this meet is most likely to early in the season to count toward at large points. Looked like NYU ran without top man Zitek, and a few others had off days, as I saw one of their guys up front early and then fade.Course was soft and wet, those times took hard efforts for the most part. Williams looked strong, went out to front and stayed there. NCAA criteria states last 2-3 meets before regionals count toward at large selection, which would most likely mean meets starting in the next 1-2 weeks. Oct 15th weekend is one where most people race someone and get head to head points.
hey wrote:
Williams and Midd soundly beat NYU. that should help the case for NE actually getting 5 teams in this year
http://athletics.williams.edu/sports/mxc/2011-12/files/Purple-Valley-Classic_8k_men.pdf
NESCACer wrote:
what's the deal with Noah Graboys???
bump
bump. Little over a week away from the first big show down of the year.
It should be a good one and allow us to see where teams that have yet to really race yet such as Conn Bowdion and Wesleyan are at. Also the showdown between willaims and MIT should be quite the race
The way it looks right now (admitting that we don't really know anything) is that there are a pretty clear 6 teams in it for the 4-5 nationals spots: MIT, Williams, Midd, Tufts, Bates, Bowdoin.
Out of those I'd say MIT and Williams are all but a lock to travel, and its wide open between the other 4. Conn might make a run at it we'll have to see but I don't think they have what it takes to run with those 6 consistently.
You forgot UMass Dartmouth
at open NEs
Midd 4th
MIT 6th
Tufts 8th
Williams 9th
A fall at the start took out a few Tufts and Williams runners, possibly others not sure exactly who but it put them way back.
Rand was first DIII, 6th overall, out kicking Schmidt, time 24:55ish. Koima 15th after getting caught in the fall.
opens wrote:
at open NEs
Midd 4th
MIT 6th
Tufts 8th
Williams 9th
A fall at the start took out a few Tufts and Williams runners, possibly others not sure exactly who but it put them way back.
Rand was first DIII, 6th overall, out kicking Schmidt, time 24:55ish. Koima 15th after getting caught in the fall.
what happened to Bowdoin? Did they hold back or were they just terrible?
It's possible they were caught up in the fall as well. If not, things aren't looking good for them.
4 d3 teams in the top 9 is great though.
So what to make of Bates? Lose to Tufts (3rd best in the region at New England's today) back on 9/17. Then they beat BU narrowly at Franklin Park on 9/24 (the team that finished just above Middlebury today), and then they take down Geneseo and St. Lawrence.
I think one could argue they're the best team in the region and another could argue they're the fifth best.
Is it possible that everybody you expected to do well got caught up in the fall?
Wait how could tufts fall if they were just tempoing it? Could some one help me out here?
Huh? Not sure if you are insinuating that people are making excuses. Nobody was.
The facts are (I was watching right where the fall took place) that 50 runners piled up at the bottleneck at the start of the race. I saw a few Tufts runners fall as well as some Williams runners. This definitely affected their performances. It is possible that some Bowdoin runners fell as well, although their box was not on the side Tufts and Williams started I believe.
Huh? Not sure if you are insinuating that people are making excuses. Nobody was.
The facts are (I was watching right where the fall took place) that 50 runners piled up at the bottleneck at the start of the race. I saw a few Tufts runners fall as well as some Williams runners. This definitely affected their performances. It is possible that some Bowdoin runners fell as well, although their box was not on the side Tufts and Williams started I believe.
idk about bowdoin. I saw horowitz in like the top 20-30 around the 1 mile then he jogged the rest of the way
i highly doubt matt rand was tempoing.
No one was tempoing today. Matt looked great and outkicked Schmidt in the last 200m or so.
In case anyone is interested, with D1 runners removed, the results from the meet are similar, but Williams sneaks in front of Tufts. Team scores look like this:
Midd:
2, 5, 8, 10, 29 = 54
MIT
3, 7, 11,17, 20 = 58
Williams
6, 9, 13, 16, 25 = 69
Tufts:
1, 4, 14, 22, 33 = 74
Bowdoin
18, 24, 36, 38, 46 = 162
Amherst
23, 26, 27, 40, 48 = 164
Conn
12, 37, 42, 47, 54 = 192
Wesleyan
19, 30, 53, 55, 64 = 221