Uceny Isn't Clean

1) Uceny is a great runner2) She's hot (clean and fit female)3) She's faster than you4) You are a 26-yr-old male loser living with your parents

Look At Her wrote:

Topic says it all.

The Answer Is... wrote:

http://www.letsrun.com/photos/2011/lausanne/imagepages/image4.php

This is what I'm seeing. No more, no less.

That photo is convincing. But I grew up playing and watching golf. If you saw some of the female golfers I saw, then you might think Uceny is a petite flower. And golfers don't dope, they just drink and smoke cigarettes.

I would like to see what she looked like 4 or 5 years earlier. She might have always looked like that.

And let me add...If I was 20 years younger, and not married to Mrs. Webfoot, and a marine, then I'd ask her to the Marine Corps Ball

webfoot wrote:

1) Uceny is a great runner

2) She's hot (clean and fit female)

3) She's faster than you

4) You are a 26-yr-old male loser living with your parents

Look At Her wrote:

Topic says it all.

Lou Duesing is one of the top coaches in the country...

Internet Sargent Slaughter wrote:

Here is the progression: just where is there the suspicious pieces? Three years to go from 2:00.01 to 1:58.37 is an improvement of 0.55 seconds/year. Also, remember where she went to school and how much time she was probably spending on running (and the sleep she was getting) and the level/quality of coaching she was getting. (and remember that the last two winners of global gold made her 2006-2011 improvement within one season!)

2005 2:06.26

2006 2:04.32

2007 2:01.75

She then proceeded to the following as a pro:

2008 2:00.01

2009 2:00.06

2010 1:58.67

2011 1:58.37

We see what we want to see.

What rumor? The picture I posted is from this site. It is extremely unlikely for a woman to be able to have natural deltoids like that. She was indeed pretty solidly built in her college years, but is way more ripped at the moment. I'm not even talking about her time progressions, I'll leave that to the track experts. I'm talking about how she looks, which to me, is suspect. Sorry if my opinion rankles you. But seriously, I'm just going off how she looks. That's not "without any basis whatsoever"; quite the contrary. Even gymrat women I've seen that lift hours a day don't look that ripped. But again, it's just my opinion.

Just did a google search on her and looked at images. Indeed she had quite a "transformation" in the past year alone than any other years based on the pictures.

The Answer Is... wrote:

What rumor? The picture I posted is from this site. It is extremely unlikely for a woman to be able to have natural deltoids like that. She was indeed pretty solidly built in her college years, but is way more ripped at the moment. I'm not even talking about her time progressions, I'll leave that to the track experts. I'm talking about how she looks, which to me, is suspect. Sorry if my opinion rankles you. But seriously, I'm just going off how she looks. That's not "without any basis whatsoever"; quite the contrary. Even gymrat women I've seen that lift hours a day don't look that ripped. But again, it's just my opinion.

Internet Sargent Slaughter wrote:

Her progression makes me a little suspicious as well, but that doesn't mean she's doped, and now that she's ranked so highly, she'll be tested much more often, so if she is doped up, there is a much higher probability that it will be revealed, and if she isn't doped up, there's a much higher probability that the running community will have some proof of that as well.

That's why US Postal failed so many drug tests.

Timmy Jenkins wrote:

I think the exact opposite. Assume a 13:05 5000 guy improves to 12:55 on drugs. Is a 13:05 Kenyan going to take drugs? He can't afford it, an agent isn't likely to make that risky investment, and he can make a great living for Kenya running 13:05. Is a 13:05 American 5000 going to take drugs? He probably can afford it, if he runs 12:55 he will get a disproportionately large contract, if he stays at 13:05, he makes so little that he may as well get a job.

A 13:05 Kenyan isn't going to get air fare out of Nairobi. A 13:05 American can get a Nike contract, appearance fees, and the cover of Runner's World (if he's good-looking), Running Times (if he's average-looking), or Track & Field News (if he's downright homely).

I'm not sure what any of that has to do with Uceny, except that, if she's smart, well-educated, and well-positioned for the job market outside athletics (and I suspect that all three are true), then I think that it's much less likely that she's going to risk a lifetime of disgrace by doping.

tell the IAAF, we have another Jelimo on our hands

The Answer Is... wrote:

What rumor? The picture I posted is from this site. It is extremely unlikely for a woman to be able to have natural deltoids like that. She was indeed pretty solidly built in her college years, but is way more ripped at the moment. I'm not even talking about her time progressions, I'll leave that to the track experts. I'm talking about how she looks, which to me, is suspect. Sorry if my opinion rankles you. But seriously, I'm just going off how she looks. That's not "without any basis whatsoever"; quite the contrary. Even gymrat women I've seen that lift hours a day don't look that ripped. But again, it's just my opinion.

Here is one definition of rumor:

A story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts:

I don't think you have any facts about whether or not Uceny is "clean" so I consider these insinuations to be rumors.

And if we are just going on appearance, maybe we don't even need drug testing. We can just examine an athlete's appearance from one year to the next. Anyone who shows noticeably increased muscle definition is assumed to be taking some sort of banned substance.

Would that method be acceptable to you?

Morgan Uceny pics.

2008:

http://www.topnews.in/morgan-uceny-2008-track-payton-jordan-cardinal-invitational-may-4-2008-2116826

2009:

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/lG9G56vNOWW/2009+USA+Outdoor+Track+Field+Championships/IlyshlFzXmU/Morgan+Uceny

2010:

http://www.morethanthegames.co.uk/athletics/1011604-in-form-dobriskey-bubbling-with-confidence-again

She was basically an 800 runner until last year, when she ran both. This year is her first as primarily a 1500 runner so yeah, she probably is doing a lot more volume and is consequently skinnier. She is more ripped this year, but it is probably from increased training volume. Her training partner Pierce looks the same way, but is running badly this year.

Check her times, good but not close to world beating. She's "just" a world class athlete with a great finish who knows how to race well enough to position herself to deliver that closing speed consistently.

For perspective, this is unclean you jackwagon:

from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1500_metres_world_record_progression

3:52.47 Tatyana Kazankina (URS) 1980-08-03

3:50.46 Qu Yunxia (CHN) 1993-09-11.

Soviet bloc and China's miracle girls of 1993. Check out the other records from 800-10,000m and see how many Soviet era and 1993 Chinese are on there. That's pretty dope.

If Uceny's on drugs then she needs a better dealer you moron

So if she is doping then Bernard Lagat is clean right?

I would rather all of you stop constantly kissing ass and living in the delusional fantasy that he is clean. Tear him down or Carmelita Jeter for god's sake.

Morgan came to Ann Arbor to train under Mike McGuire after graduating from Cornell. She had been running at most 25 miles a week while at Cornell, so McGuire was smart and only increased her mileage to 35-40 to avoid injuries. Under his program, she improved from 2.01 to 2.00. After missing the team in the 800m at the Olympic trials, she then came back in the 1500m and finished very honorably, despite being a rookie at the event on the professional level. She then decided to follow Anna Pierce (Willard at the time) and join the MTC and train under Terrance Mahon. She has only continued her steady progression over the 800m, but more importantly has made the important step up to the 1500m. I can only assume that under Mahon, he has gradually increased her mileage, and aerobic conditioning to the level needed for elite level 1500m racing. When she graduated college, she was running 25 miles a week!

It never even crossed my mind the idea that Morgan could be on drugs. For those that have watched her progression while training in Ann Arbor, we knew she would be on par or better than Anna Pierce, once she got her training volume to the right level.

Improvements are not an indication of drug use, association with bad coaches, agents, doctors or national doping programs are. Good luck finding one bad association that Morgan has.

Cheer on this girl, because she is the real deal, and is gaining confidence every day. The performances from Rowberry, Willard and Wurth-Thomas the past three seasons in Europe are probably just as big a factor in the improvements you've seen from Morgan. Seeing them compete with the best made her believe she belongs up the front as well. They have helped pave the way.

The other thing is that the drug testing has improved so much, that alot of her competitors are not lighting up the track as they may have in the past 10 years. She is racing against clean athletes, and beating them fare and square. Had she come through in '07, the russians would have been running 3.56 to her 4.00

POD

I believe the OP was trolling. Obviously, there is nothing in either her progression or her performances to date (1:58/4:05) to suggest use of PEDs.

Lest we not forget that Uceny went to Cornell, an Ivy League institution, to attain a world-class education. Moreover, in case many of you don't already know, all 8 Ivy League schools do not grant athletic scholarships. Uceny, then, as with all Ivy League student-athletes, "student" precedes "athlete". Running was ancillary, then, to her studies. I assume she only ran singles, and as a MD-runner, she probably logged no more than 50mpw while she was at Cornell. However, now that she is a professional runner and is now able to commit herself fully to running, her progression would seem natural. Nobody, after all, is crying foul to Shalane Flanagan or Molly Huddle's improving as they have since their respective departures from school. Most telling, yet, no one is questioning Sally Kipyego, who also has seen her stock rise parallel to Uceny's since graduating a couple of years ago.

As for Uceny's "masculine" features: News flash! Most female athletes have more testosterone than their non-athletic peers. (Did anyone watch the Women's World Cup?) The fact is that women (and men) have varying degrees of testosterone/estrogen, and although Uceny's hormonal balance may not be as skewed as Caster Semenya's, there's a good reason to suspect that Uceny's balance may also be more on the "masculine" side, and thereby serve as the basis to her competitive advantage and progression.

Only evil foreigners cheat, obviously.