Mabe Kadevis is finally learning that you don't need to lead the first 200m in 23 to win an 800m race. Sometimes when you coach, you can see these things a little clearer.
Mabe Kadevis is finally learning that you don't need to lead the first 200m in 23 to win an 800m race. Sometimes when you coach, you can see these things a little clearer.
Almost as exciting as his race was his interview after the race. He was definitely happy.
haha YO wrote:
Shoebacca wrote:That was incredible to watch. Kick of the week or else pacing of the week. The other guys looked like they were running in a different race when he made his move. It was as if the pack moved as a pack and he ran the whole race on his own. You can see at the start when he's way back, then the pack clumps, lets him get back into it, and then he just goes around them all. Impressive.
That's what happens when a field goes out in 49.
The pacer went 49.x but the filed was in 51.0 or thereabouts; throws your whole post off.
im all pumped that KD did really well and that he ran such a great race tactiacally, but seriously isnt there something a little off about this? dude's 34 and runs a 1:45 a week after a 1:46, blows the barns doors off an entire field thats years younger than he is using a tactic he's never used before this year (whihc might be why he was able to do so well, but still), didnt race at all last year (i know, he rabitted and was injured) yet all of a sudden he's beating a diamond league field in the fashion that he did? not to mention that he's now "self coached"? i dont buy it 100%, I'd love to be wrong but this just seems too fishy, i just have the feeling he might be using something now, and again I'd love to be wrong but it doesnt really add up to me.
I am always amused when such impressive finishes are described as "blazing" or "blew their doors off." KD ran, it appears, splits something like 25, 27, (52) 27 (1:19)and 26 (1:45). The race is ALWAYS won by the LAST runner to take the lead, and the earlier you take it, the less likely it is that that will be you. Even pace means you are likely to have legs in the last 40-100 meters or so when those who went out fast are without theirs. KD basically ran the race Nick Symmonds typically runs, notably in the 2008 OLY Trials. People described Nick's finish there as blazing, too, when in actuality it was, as was everyone's last 100m, his slowest of the race, but slowest to a dramatically lesser extent. In a race among equals, if you lead early, you lose. And there is enough parity at the top of this event, (if not at the pinnacle)that assuming you are the class of the field is playing with fire. Good for K.D.
Joaquim cruz used to run 1'45 warming up,( I heard he had done 3 x sub 1'46 training , with 5 minutes rest ) and 30 years ago. KRobinson run is NOT as stunning as you say. Come on, let's be real!!!
^I'm glad we got the obligatory drug post, 'last-200-of-an-800-is-really-not-a-kick' post, and random comparison to older near-WR holding athlete post all out of the way in a row.
Now let's get back to talking about how damn impressive this run was. The term convincing win exists for a reason.
Why would he have to use anything, he was in 1:44x shape just last year.
--Crawl back into your hole!
Completely with you. It's best to have even pacing, which I know is hard in a race like this because of the excitement etc., but he ran a similar time that he ran a couple years ago. He ran very smart which you dont see people do very much these days.
michael t. smith wrote:
I am always amused when such impressive finishes are described as "blazing" or "blew their doors off." KD ran, it appears, splits something like 25, 27, (52) 27 (1:19)and 26 (1:45). The race is ALWAYS won by the LAST runner to take the lead, and the earlier you take it, the less likely it is that that will be you. Even pace means you are likely to have legs in the last 40-100 meters or so when those who went out fast are without theirs. KD basically ran the race Nick Symmonds typically runs, notably in the 2008 OLY Trials. People described Nick's finish there as blazing, too, when in actuality it was, as was everyone's last 100m, his slowest of the race, but slowest to a dramatically lesser extent. In a race among equals, if you lead early, you lose. And there is enough parity at the top of this event, (if not at the pinnacle)that assuming you are the class of the field is playing with fire. Good for K.D.
You sound like a distance runner...
...you sound like someone who does not know a lot about the 800.
Hey has changed his tactics. I am one of his athletes at unlv and i can tell you that he has not only been helping us but we have been teaching him a few things as well. He changed my strategy and many times we have talked about him changing his as well so to everyone who is saying he is on something get out of here