GALEN RUPP!!! GREAT RACE

my man wrote: He is on the wrong side of 25 to be worth anything on the world stage in the events he wants to run.

Given that he's 24 right now, are you suggesting that he's too young to ever become great? If so, that's one of the oddest criticisms I've come across.

(I know, I know, that's not what you meant. Actual facts have nothing to do with your "argument.")

had Mo and Rupp been in Lisbon they would've been beaten by Tadesse (the world's best 1/2 marathoner), but they would've run debuts in the 59:30 range. Lisbon is the worlds fastest course

Truth Sayer wrote:

Let's not forget Rupp did fall and had to surge to catch back up. I suspect that might have been the cause of 3rd place finish. Otherwise he would have won.

No.

I cannot believe the people on here criticizing these great debuts Rupp and Farah have made.....THEY BOTH RAN GREAT!!! Gebre is a former world cross winner, sub 27 10k and NYC marathon winner in 2010. Sure Tadesse ran a blistering time, he is the worlds best........Mo and Rupp and working their way towards being the worlds best and are doing a damned great job! Give these 2 guys some credit, there were some great athletes in their wake

Rupp and Farah will make one another better, even though it is an individual sport I believe they will push one another to unbelievable heights and will be able to compete with the best in the world over the next 2 years- this is very exciting in my opinion.

FARAH AND RUPP WILL BOTH BE SUB 27:00 and SUB 13:00 in 2011 (Farah closer to 12:50).....does anyone disagree?

13:11i feb 19th

60:30 HM mar 20th

i'd say his increase in peak mileage is having positive results on his performances.

if Solinsky is in the race, then yes I disagree, and quite strongly... Rupp will probably give up again, he doesn't like seeing American competition

oh no no no wrote:

if Solinsky is in the race, then yes I disagree, and quite strongly... Rupp will probably give up again, he doesn't like seeing American competition

yeah like hall and meb.

Joe mama wrote:

There is no way coach Salazar (aka the easy sleezy) would pick a difficult course for Galen, kind of like the 5K turkey trot he had him and webb run... he does this for two reasons (1) money, these races pay better (2) to scare the Africans, so they think our runners are doing better than they really are

I doubt we will ever see Solinski or Teg or Jager run one of these publicity stunts, they are coached too well

Solinsky the guy who has made 1 WC/Olympic team in his entire career, and whose name you don't even know how to spell? Seriously? And Teg who is always hurt, and Jager, ditto? Hahahaha!

Africa Unite wrote:

DUCKS Attack wrote:

Was Farah born in England?

Made in England born in Somali Republic

Born in Somalia, lived in the UK since 9 years old. Very recently moved to the US to train with the Nike Oregon lot.

Interesting that so many Americans get exited about a third place ... it's not like Rupp actually won anything :/

pr100 wrote:

Interesting that so many Americans get exited about a third place ... it's not like Rupp actually won anything :/

Interesting that so many non-Americans fail to see what's coming.

So many people are trying to bring down what Galen accomplished.

Just look who he beat (including last years winner and this years US half champ) and who he was racing against in the end of that race (Farah and Gebre)! Clearly that was a great performance and I look forward to seeing what Galen can do on a historically faster course (like RAK).

I give him 2 more years before he goes the way of Ryan Hall

You didn't say directly that it was faster than the flat courses that elite road runners usually race on, but you implied it both by reference to the net downhill, by referring in the past to the course as being aided (because of the net downhill and the pt to pt structure), by concentrating on the idea that the course is favorable, and by making these comments always about this race rather than about the truly fast courses that they usually run on. No one said that these hills were huge and I remember vividly just how simple they always seem after spending some time running in the mountains out west. But, like Boston, it is not a faster course than flat, legal courses.

world class wrote:

I cannot believe the people on here criticizing these great debuts Rupp and Farah have made.....THEY BOTH RAN GREAT!!!

Who's criticizing either performance? They both ran great. There's no disagreement here.

Joe Peoples wrote:

I give him 2 more years before he goes the way of Ryan Hall

Ryan Hall exploded onto the marathon scene after years of very high highs, and very low lows. Galen Rupp made a steady progression through high school, and though his progress has tapered (as it naturally does at this level) he is still making constant improvements.

What, pray tell, suggests that Rupp's career would follow even a remotely similar trajectory to Hall's?

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

You didn't say directly that it was faster than the flat courses that elite road runners usually race on, but you implied it both by reference to the net downhill, by referring in the past to the course as being aided (because of the net downhill and the pt to pt structure), by concentrating on the idea that the course is favorable, and by making these comments always about this race rather than about the truly fast courses that they usually run on. No one said that these hills were huge and I remember vividly just how simple they always seem after spending some time running in the mountains out west. But, like Boston, it is not a faster course than flat, legal courses.

I didn't imply anything. I simply made a dispassionate assessment of the course and debunked the notion that it is a difficult one.

Comparing Boston to a HM course is ridiculous. The HM is nothing like a marathon. Boston is deadly because of the downhills. They are body blows that wreck your quads by the time you get to Cleveland Circle, with nothing byut downhill to the finish. Boston Lore is full of stories of runners to make it to Cleveland Circle at WR pace, only to be cruelly humbled over the final descent.

At Boston, downhill kills.

The only similarity to Boston is that both courses can benefit from a tailwind. Boston marathon course is coming from the SSW so it is much more infrequent that they will get that tailwind (like 1983). The NYC HM is coming from the NNE. The prevailing winds in NY are from the NW so there is normally a benefit. Yesterdays winds were right at the runners backs and equivalent to twice the legal allowable limit for a track race -- actually MORE, 4.5 meters per second. Gusts yesterday were over 6 meters per second.

A downhill course with a strong wind is a recipe for fast times. I said this years ago, and this year it worked out.

If the NYRRC would just move the start up a half mile, it would not be an aided course.

blonde hair, soft facial features, over all fear of American competition, frequent dropping out of races, married to beards, need I go on, cause I will, the list is long

At what time during the race did Rupp fall? I havent saw it.

Joe mama wrote:

There is no way coach Salazar (aka the easy sleezy) would pick a difficult course for Galen, kind of like the 5K turkey trot he had him and webb run... he does this for two reasons (1) money, these races pay better (2) to scare the Africans, so they think our runners are doing better than they really are

I doubt we will ever see Solinski or Teg or Jager run one of these publicity stunts, they are coached too well

20 races year tell me besides a turkey trot when did he make a publicity stunt? The us indoors? Birmingham 5k? - cross race in the snow? Lets just see at Pre. As for being coached poorly it looks like a pretty damn good progression to me. Alberto is a nice guy if you have ever met him.