John Bingham's Newtonian moment: "Ah-ha! I will become rich selling underachievement!

genuine random a hole wrote:

big deal. wrote:

I don't think what you believe to be common actually is. Of course the Olympic champ is the hero. Thing is, I have never run in to one. I don't have 3 or 4 that work in my office. If I did then I would give him proper praise (or respect). So I congratulate the 50 yr old woman in my department that ran her first half marathon in 2:30.

Big deal said:"If you want to calm down and attempt a well-reasoned, meaningful point, then go ahead."

Super Jay five said: "To sum up when people SLOW DOWN they relax, plan and save energy so in the long haul they perform better."

Aren't we saying the EXACT SAME THING?

Super Jay Five wrote:

luv2run wrote:

Funny that since the Penguin came along American distance running has actually improved.

That is because to run better times the first thing to do is SLOW DOWN! Chris McCormac tells a story of a friend of his that could not break ten hours at Ironman no matter what he did. Macca told him to slow down and walk SIX TIMES (he was walking twice) on the run. What happened? His time IMPROVED by 23 minutes. It is really the same with everything. To go faster start by SLOWING DOWN!

Super Jay, that is not what I intended. Sure, some people (and I suspect triathletes can be among the worst at this) run all their workouts too hard, but that is not really what Bingham is getting at.

My point mainly was that there is no connection between the two. Bingham found an audience that connected with his ideas. Bless them and him. But his essays have done nothing to impact competitive distance running. Correlation is not causation.

Let them run/walk slow- it's better than sitting at home getting fat.

We have these huge races, many with prize money for the studs, because of all the "penguins".

Let them run/walk slow- it's better than sitting at home getting fat.

We have these huge races, many with prize money for the studs, because of all the "penguins".

Super Jay Five wrote:

Big deal said:"If you want to calm down and attempt a well-reasoned, meaningful point, then go ahead."

Super Jay five said: "To sum up when people SLOW DOWN they relax, plan and save energy so in the long haul they perform better."

Aren't we saying the EXACT SAME THING?

Not if you're using case-sensitive comparison.

Yes it sounded to me that you ment it ironically. I mean it ironically too. In other words it is IRONIC that distant running has improved since the Penguin came along. I agree with that. It is ALSO ironic that when people slow down they go faster. Another poster (CBR) said his time improved 2 minutes in the 5K when he "followed" the Penguin. The big question is: "will that work with competitive runners?" To find the answer they will have to try it!

NSString wrote:

Super Jay Five wrote:

Big deal said:"If you want to calm down and attempt a well-reasoned, meaningful point, then go ahead."

Super Jay five said: "To sum up when people SLOW DOWN they relax, plan and save energy so in the long haul they perform better."

Aren't we saying the EXACT SAME THING?

Not if you're using case-sensitive comparison.

To sum up when people slow down they relax, plan and save energy so in the long haul they perform better.

Now, are saying the exact same thing?

Hundreds of people have climb Everest. What's the point unless you're going to do it faster than anyone else?

The OP must have a very sad life if he doesn't do anything that he's not competitive at.

Riverdale Runner wrote:

The OP must have a very sad life if he doesn't do anything that he's not competitive at.

No way. OP is hilarious. Do you really think the first post is real?

Super Jay Five wrote:

NSString wrote:

Not if you're using case-sensitive comparison.

To sum up when people slow down they relax, plan and save energy so in the long haul they perform better.

Now, are saying the exact same thing?

Uhhh, ever heard of Bud Winter?

relax - don't do it wrote:

Super Jay Five wrote:

To sum up when people slow down they relax, plan and save energy so in the long haul they perform better.

Now, are saying the exact same thing?

Uhhh, ever heard of Bud Winter?

NO, I had never heard of Bud Winter! He says the exact same thing I do! Slow down to 4/5 speed (80%) and you WILL GO FASTER! So we are both right! How come almost everybody gets all hysterical when I tell them to SLOW DOWN!