Lukas V. 8:40.7!!

bob m wrote:

OK so where does rank as far as all-time best performance. i mean ryun, pre lindgren, virgin, german , chapa ,webb, ritz et al... where does this put Lukas.

I would guess 2nd, behind Lindgren...

4th place guy is also a new East African.

Gotta be demoralizing to the rest of the white kids competing at the national scene.

I just noticed that in the last few seconds of the 1 mile video that as Lukas is walking off the track and behind the railing, someone gives him a big hug. If you look closely, you can see that it's Vin Lananna. He must have flown to NY to watch his new recruit after the NCAA indoors were over yesterday.

Here are all three of his races this weekend. Too bad we won't get to see him more during the outdoor season.

Mile -

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&video_id=39277

2 Mile -

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&video_id=39248

5000 -

http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&video_id=38805

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i'm confused as to whether you guys hate foreigners or black people. i'm not a big fan of this Luthanian kid nor east Africans, but can we at least agree that native-born blacks are cool

Truth Sayer wrote:

4th place guy is also a new East African.

Gotta be demoralizing to the rest of the white kids competing at the national scene.

It's inevitable that Kenyan and/or Ethiopian/Eritrean born runners will own all of the American distance records from high school to college and the pros, because those nations have numerous guys at every level better or even far better than our best. On the high school level, Cheserek, who has a great story, will probably destroy this record before he's through and probably win the next two Footlocker xc championships. But of course, his age is totally uncertain and he's probably going to be several years older than typical American hs students. Verzbicas would have been a year older had he not skipped a grade.

Cheserek is freaking 17 already. Sophomore my ass! And hes freaking a recruited kenyan.

National records should definately only go to citizens. If youre kenyan and born in the US then sure have the record, not if you came here 8 months ago.

With high school or college records and meets, I'm not concerned about race, but I am concerned about age. Let's hope Cheserek is the age of a high school soph. If not, he goes in the too old category - like Verzbicas' "freshman" records, and like a 25-26 year old Sammy Chelanga competing against 19-23 year old college students. It's not against the rules, but I don't have to like it.

My take on it wrote:

Seeing as how Ritz got third at worlds, and was ahead of all but one Kenyan, I must disagree.

Moron, for the last time, that was a mudfest. Lebid got second in the senior race. Some dude from Portugal got 4th in the senior race. So do you believe the national champ from Portugal and Ukraine will be medal contenders this year?

Did you ever tell me a first time that it was a mudfest? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Who brought Portugal or Spain into the discussion? What point are you trying to make?

Truth Sayer wrote:

4th place guy is also a new East African.

Gotta be demoralizing to the rest of the white kids competing at the national scene.

Not really. Lukas is younger than the East Africans who claim to be younger than him, so it's more of a mess than anything else.

Whats funny is that Lukas won the team title by himself. hahahah

Age is what matters wrote:

With high school or college records and meets, I'm not concerned about race, but I am concerned about age. Let's hope Cheserek is the age of a high school soph. If not, he goes in the too old category - like Verzbicas' "freshman" records, and like a 25-26 year old Sammy Chelanga competing against 19-23 year old college students. It's not against the rules, but I don't have to like it.

A few articles placed him at 17 already. So he has at least a year over most kids, prolly more like 14months over average.