Newly diagnosed with Hashimotos Thyroiditis...anyone have any insight?

jacabo wrote:

Besides, your website, atkinsexposed.org, is hardly a reputable nutrition information website. It a website created by doctors to bash a doctor who challenged their long-held (albiet, faulty) belief that saturated fat is the number one killer in the United States.

Seems you are using media language. It doesn't matter that website is full of clinical studies, it doesn't matter it cite thousand of refences, nowdays all it matters is fact that it's created by someone who is against someone else. Voila. Not my level, sorry mate.

jacabo wrote:

You do realize that by promoting Dean Ornish you're promoting vegetarianism, which is not proven to be the best diet possible by clinical trials (far from it).

We can go further. Since I'm promoting vegetarianism I'm promoting Hindu lifestyle. And some dangerous sects are Hindu-like. Seems I'm against Christianity here, and since Christianity is foundation of USA, I'm dangerous terrorist!

I feel like an ankle biter for continuing this argument with you, but here goes...

The Ornish diet is a vegetarian diet. I was just making sure you knew that by promoting Ornish you were promoting vegetarianism. How you got from vegetarianism to being anti-christian doesn't make sense, but neither has much else you've written here.

If I can suggest, you should avoid scientific topics at all costs, sorry to say that, but with your IQ you'll look like fool all the time.

Hint - every follower of Ornish diet is vegetatrian, but it doesn't work other way.

do you understand the difference between science and bullshit?

If it is such common knowledge, how come you can't produce a link a scientific source to back this up? Also, i've had this for the past 8 years and I've never had a blood test come back low for any of these vitamins.

But where is the evidence? You were able to link to some good sources to show the association between autoimmune diseases but when asked to produce one scientific link to the supplement arguement you act like it's "the given"??

Do you seriously think that everything you read on LCR and the internet is true?

Notice that every website on hypothyroidism has ads for supplements? it's trying to grab the attention of the overweight person who claims they are fat because of their underactive thyroid and the medical profession just don't know what they are doing.

The ornish diet has been shown beneficial for cardiovascular health. There is no evidence it can make your underactive thyroid more active.

Of course you won't because it doesn't exist. Hypothyroidism isn't that complicated to treat. it doesn't take supplements or a change in a diet. your body doesn't produce enough thyroid hormone and you take a pill so that you have enough.

anyone who claims it is more complicated that this is trying to sell something.

Jesus...

very first link:

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"The conversion of beta carotene into vitamin A is driven by thyroid hormone."

And this is reason why hypothyroind patients usually turn orange after eating carrots

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(Cr). Keyvani,

et al, found that low vitamin A levels are

associated with an increase in the prevalence of

goiter in subjects under 18. After the age of 18,

females were more affected by goiter than males,

who were found to have higher vitamin A levels.4

An increase in tissue estrogen sensitivity in the

presence of vitamin A deficiency may explain the

increased prevalence in women.5 Zinc deficiency

has also been found in children with grade 1

goiters in conjunction with a deficiency of

vitamin A.6

http://www.ajcn.org/content/34/8/1489.short

Vitamin A therapy in patients with documented vitamin A deficiency produced an increase in T3, thyroxine (T4), FT3I, FT4I, and free T3 by dialysis,

One point for you - seems in modern society there's no vitamin A deficiency in hypothyroid patients. I have study somewhere on old harddrive with results counter to this, but it would be hell of searching.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

There is a high (approx 40%) prevalence of B12 deficiency in hypothyroid patients

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12495373

Documented sulfoxidation-sulfation inadequacies call for sulfur-sulfhydryl repletion and other liver p450 support.

And just to inform you, Epsom salts (magnesium sulphate) were used once as chelating agent in case of heavy metal poisoning.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20519169

We concluded that the supplementation of Se in diet had beneficial effects on hypothyroidism during a critical period of life.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18322655

Selenium deficiency may contribute to cardiovascular disease risk in these patients.

(wikipedia link to selenium)

.... and three known deiodinase enzymes (which convert one thyroid hormone to another).

(same source)

Experimental findings have demonstrated a protective effect of selenium on methylmercury toxicity

Cmon, you have hypothyroidism for 8 years and still didn't fount out that B12 deficiency is common in this disease? Still didn't fount out that selenium is mandatory for FT4-FT3 conversion?

inside out wrote:

The ornish diet has been shown beneficial for cardiovascular health. There is no evidence it can make your underactive thyroid more active.

I'm not talking about "making underactive thyroid more active", I'm talking about curing autoimmune disease completetly. It's impossible as stated by "normal" medicine, there are no studies to support this, so you will have to take my word for it - it works. I saw it with my own eyes. Your choice if you trust me and try to eat healthy, or trust your doctor and eat pills to the end of your life, praying that there's no sclerosis multiple waiting for you over the corner.

This is an interesting discussion. I went to a doctor who practiced some alternative medicine. She claimed she treated herself for Hashimoto's using chelation therapy, and eventually went off hormone replacement altogether. Of course she was also very careful to eat a good diet. I had always believed that once a person got Hashimoto's, their thyroid was dead. Maybe not, huh. I did chelation under her supervision, and did notice feeling stronger as a result. She said a lot of people are exposed to heavy metals in our modern society. I have not tried going off hormone replacement, but am on a slightly lower dose than previously.

Wife has thyroid issues. On synthroid for years, stopped working, switched to porcine thyroid - worked well, gradually stopped working - had developed antibodies to thyroid hormone. diagnosed with celiac disease, eliminated gluten 100% now doing much better, antibodies have significantly diminished, now on a much lower dose of thyroid hormone.