I Know Better wrote:
Show me a weight loss study where the participants ran 90 minutes a day and I'll show you a weight loss study where half the participants dropped out due to injuries.
True, but they can do what every runner on this board has done: BUILD to that run-time. The fact that they don't want to put in the time and energy to achieve that goal has nothing to do with genetics.
jjunk wrote:
Did you read that? That's exactly what I'm talking about-- a 5.5 mile run? 30 minutes on a stairmaster? An hour and twenty minutes at the gym where you're waiting 3 minutes between sets and taking water breaks and doing 3x8/12 reps on the machines. Not even bare minimum for health let alone weight loss.
A 5.5 mile run is about what most people here run as their first run of the day before a hardworkout.
No one here calls 5.5 a long run.
Except Maggie Vessey...lol...
But try and find a doc to recommend 70-90 miles a week for weight loss.
....5.5 mile runs are 'long runs' for me... and I'm 5'9" and trying to GAIN weight (ideally 155.)
No one can blame their genetics for obesity, it's just an excuse. Epigenetics shows that genes are not set in stone and change with environment. Yes some people can inherit genes that make them more likely to gain weight, but no one on a healthy plant based diet would fail to lose that weight. Look at wild animals, they are all the same size and you don't get fat ones. Humans who eat a natural diet are also slim. Our toxic, processed food environment makes people fat and sick.
This.
Randy savage wrote:
No one can blame their genetics for obesity, it's just an excuse. Epigenetics shows that genes are not set in stone and change with environment. Yes some people can inherit genes that make them more likely to gain weight, but no one on a healthy plant based diet would fail to lose that weight. Look at wild animals, they are all the same size and you don't get fat ones. Humans who eat a natural diet are also slim. Our toxic, processed food environment makes people fat and sick.
lalala wrote:
True, but they can do what every runner on this board has done: BUILD to that run-time. The fact that they don't want to put in the time and energy to achieve that goal has nothing to do with genetics.
The point you missed is that running sucks. You runners think you are the epitome of fitness and that your preferred mode of activity is what everyone should do. Wrong. By far the best way to lose weight is RESISTANCE TRAINING in conjunction with caloric restriction. No f***ing jogging.
I Know Better wrote:
This is the first correct statement not posted by me so far in this thread. The primary culprit in the obesity epidemic is not lack of exercise, but dietary excess.
My grandparents were farmers and they had cows and pigs, so they ate a huge amount of saturated fat. I remember my grandpa having half an inch of butter on his sandwiches. They drank unskimmed milk (and lots of beer) etc. Guess what? They were not fat, because they were exercising all day (working).
jjunk wrote:
But try and find a doc to recommend 70-90 miles a week for weight loss.
and it would be malpractice if a doctor did recommend that foolishness.
well. wrote:
My grandparents were farmers and they had cows and pigs, so they ate a huge amount of saturated fat. I remember my grandpa having half an inch of butter on his sandwiches. They drank unskimmed milk (and lots of beer) etc. Guess what? They were not fat, because they were exercising all day (working).
Saturated fat doesn't cause obesity. Excess caloric intake does.
I don't understand, why can't it be BOTH diet AND exercise?
We don't live in a one-or-the-other world.
BOTH of them combined, whether done right or wrong, will affect your weight, but more importantly, your overall health.
We need BOTH.
Did anyone else find it humorous that that article from Time Magazine about how exercise isn't important for weight loss has been one of the most consistently popular articles on Time's website for at least several months? I can just imagine a bunch of poor slobs wishfully reading that and deciding against taking up an exercise regimen.
Jackfruitman wrote:
I don't understand, why can't it be BOTH diet AND exercise?
We don't live in a one-or-the-other world.
BOTH of them combined, whether done right or wrong, will affect your weight, but more importantly, your overall health.
We need BOTH.
We absolutely do need both, but few people understand what actually constitutes proper exercise, and runners are generally the most misinformed out of all the ideological factions. If you are a runner, you have no business preaching to anyone about exercise, because it's better to remain fat than become an emaciated jogger.
I Know Better wrote:
lalala wrote:True, but they can do what every runner on this board has done: BUILD to that run-time. The fact that they don't want to put in the time and energy to achieve that goal has nothing to do with genetics.
The point you missed is that running sucks. You runners think you are the epitome of fitness and that your preferred mode of activity is what everyone should do. Wrong. By far the best way to lose weight is RESISTANCE TRAINING in conjunction with caloric restriction. No f***ing jogging.
1. Why are you on Letsrun?
2. I average about 90 miles a week. I don't lift weights. I'm in college, so I eat enormous amounts of food in the dining halls.
3. I'm still losing weight. It's actually a bit of a problem.
4. I haven't jogged in about 6 years
I Know Better wrote:
The point you missed is that running sucks. You runners think you are the epitome of fitness and that your preferred mode of activity is what everyone should do. Wrong. By far the best way to lose weight is RESISTANCE TRAINING in conjunction with caloric restriction. No f***ing jogging.
Am I the only one who has noticed that this poster apparently hates runners and all things related to running, yet he is posting very actively on letsrun? This is a troll if ever I have seen one.
By the way, as I've told my overweight friends who do nothing but gain weight every year: there is a reason that the biggest loser includes a lot of running and concludes with a marathon. Running works. And FYI most runners also do strength training, eat healthy and lots of other things that probably haven't occurred to you. Every time I go to the doctor they are amazed at my heart rate, blood pressure, cholesterol level, LACK of medications, etc. And I'm the most muscular 41 year old woman I know.
hey guess what wrote:
1. Why are you on Letsrun?
2. I average about 90 miles a week. I don't lift weights. I'm in college, so I eat enormous amounts of food in the dining halls.
3. I'm still losing weight. It's actually a bit of a problem.
4. I haven't jogged in about 6 years
1. Because it suits me.
2. Nobody cares.
3. Emaciated distance runners are not impressive physical specimens and are not to be emulated.
4. You are a jogger.
Too many factors to consider. Look at our changing demographics, more latino more blacks. That's even greater diversity in the foods and activities.
Some people are tall, some people are fat, some are short, some are skinny. To blame video games, fast food, corn syrup, etc.. it's just too much of a "kids these days.." type of argument.
lalala wrote:
By the way, as I've told my overweight friends who do nothing but gain weight every year: there is a reason that the biggest loser includes a lot of running and concludes with a marathon. Running works. And FYI most runners also do strength training, eat healthy and lots of other things that probably haven't occurred to you. Every time I go to the doctor they are amazed at my heart rate, blood pressure, cholesterol level, LACK of medications, etc. And I'm the most muscular 41 year old woman I know.
The reason "The Biggest Loser" includes a lot of running is because it's a TV show written for entertainment purposes. And if you're so healthy, why are going to the doctor?
I feel sorry for people who are fat because of their genes. I can't imagine what it would be like to have genes that didn't allow one to slowly build up, over several years to where he could run a bit over an hour a day. Genes that require people to sit in front of a tv for 4-5 hours every night are truly unfathomable.
I Know Better wrote:
lalala wrote:By the way, as I've told my overweight friends who do nothing but gain weight every year: there is a reason that the biggest loser includes a lot of running and concludes with a marathon. Running works. And FYI most runners also do strength training, eat healthy and lots of other things that probably haven't occurred to you. Every time I go to the doctor they are amazed at my heart rate, blood pressure, cholesterol level, LACK of medications, etc. And I'm the most muscular 41 year old woman I know.
The reason "The Biggest Loser" includes a lot of running is because it's a TV show written for entertainment purposes. And if you're so healthy, why are going to the doctor?
About every 3 years I get a cold or the flu. So last week I went because I had the flu for the first time in 10 years...Oh, yeah, and they have these things called check-ups, and gyn exams. Women get these things called pap smears.
The biggest loser includes running because IT WORKS. Running is not particularly entertaining to watch. And you are an idiot.
My mom has been overweight my entire life. My 3 siblings and I are all thin. We always had a good understanding of what eating habits my mom had that made her heavy.
There was only one overweight girl in my kingergarden class. She died from health problems before the age of 30. The rest of her family was skinny.