Marion Jones

I agree with you that he is a very good troll. He got me to bite, but it was a hilarious thread, so no hard feelings. In hindsight, I think that this statement by uncle B should have been a tip off to me and others:

"Oh, I get it. You don't want to believe that about Israel and I do (as it is 100% true)-- therefore I a must be wrong about any opinion I give on any subject. What an airtight argument"

the price is wrong wrote:

I agree with you that he is a very good troll. He got me to bite, but it was a hilarious thread, so no hard feelings. In hindsight, I think that this statement by uncle B should have been a tip off to me and others:

"Oh, I get it. You don't want to believe that about Israel and I do (as it is 100% true)-- therefore I a must be wrong about any opinion I give on any subject. What an airtight argument"

Yeah, that was too funny! I thought it was hilarious the way he assumed that I disagreed with his politics when I hadn't made a single political statement! Way to be uber-defensive! Making strong assumptions about people's politics without evidence is pretty ugly.

He is a good troll though - if he ever comes to London I'll definitely buy him a pint!

The Real UncleB is like the character in 12 angry men which Henry Fonda plays! Sometimes (real) truth does not come so easy.

[quote]Some Coked Up Brit wrote:

I'm off to a Christmas party - it's evening here in London.

What is really cool is that there are going to be some hot middle Eastern chicks at this party, both Jews and Arabs who will be there to celebrate peacefully. And I might end up doing the dirty with one of them, so won't be reading this thread any more this evening.

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Man, The Brit knows how to live. Cheers to you, sir!

here one for you .... The Real UncleB

hope you take the time to watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZqSMzOyEPU

You have come to the conclusion that everyone on this board is a racist although you have no solid proof. Yet you post it like it's fact several times a day.

jack of all tirades wrote:

You have come to the conclusion that everyone on this board is a racist although you have no solid proof. Yet you post it like it's fact several times a day.

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I am sorry but I do tend to respond to the blatant racism continuously posted in this site. I don't expect you to see it as racist no matter how obvious it is -- true racists either cannot see that they are racist or cannot admit it to themselves.

How my pointing out the racism of a post allows you to jump to the conclusion that I think "everyone on this board is a racist", I do not know.

I will chalk it up to just another example of Right Wing "logic" -- if an idea fits into the Right Wing ideology, it becomes a fact no matter how much evidence there is to refute it

[quote]Some Coked Up Brit wrote:

[quote]the price is wrong wrote:

I agree with you that he is a very good troll. He got me to bite, but it was a hilarious thread, so no hard feelings. In hindsight, I think that this statement by uncle B should have been a tip off to me and others:

This from the guy whose basis for his entire argument was that he could know something without being certain about it?

God Help me. I am surrounded by morons. I'm not kidding

God Help me. I am surrounded by morons. I'm not kidding

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well...you could leave

"Do please stop selectively quoting me and attributing arguments to me that are not mine".

Who are you, Don effin Rumsfeld? I copyu and paste your comments and you deny them?

"The basis of my argument is NOT that there is a difference between "knowing something" and "being certain of it" ...More obviously there is a difference between "knowing something" and "being 100% certain of something".

Do you actually believe that makes some kind of sense? You claim that you are not saying that there is a difference between knowing something and being certain of it and then, in the very next sentence, state (and I quote) "obviously there is a difference between "knowing something" and "being 100% certain of something"." WTF? You are now arguing there is a difference between being certain and being 100% certain. R U really that stupid -- or is your ego just so fragile you cannot admit it when you are full of it? Inquiring minds want to know.

PS, addin a bunch of gobbledy-gook like "(although of course there is obviously a linguistic and semantic nuance between these two different expressions which I'm sure you use differently depending on circumstance)" does not make you seem intelligent, in fact, it confirms your membership among the morons.

[quote]fan of uncle B wrote:

ps - i'm in the process of moving to tel aviv for work..

Maybe you can bulldoze a few houses filled with Palestinian kids while you are there

I have come to the conclusion that Marion is a drug cheat based on your exact logic.

the Real UncleB wrote:

[quote]Some Coked Up Brit wrote:

[quote]the price is wrong wrote:

I agree with you that he is a very good troll. He got me to bite, but it was a hilarious thread, so no hard feelings. In hindsight, I think that this statement by uncle B should have been a tip off to me and others:

This from the guy whose basis for his entire argument was that he could know something without being certain about it?

God Help me. I am surrounded by morons. I'm not kidding

No, this wasn't from me. See above, it was posted by the price is wrong.

The Real UncleB wrote:

How can people "know' Marion Jones was a drug cheat when she never tested positive for drugs?

She did "admit" to it as part of a plea bargain, but she would not be the first innocent person to admit to a crime as part of a deal with the justice system.

The less intelligent you are the more sure you are of your opinions. And the more likely you are to be racist and/or a right winger

Dear Real UnbleB (Does the B stand for bitch by the way?),

We cannot truly know anything. How do you know you exist Jeff, you spunk little Asian whore? And, this figment of your imagiation, Marion...is that what you like to be called when you cross dress? Marion, aka, Jeff, look, we all know this Marion alterego you possess is really just your need to get back to your umbilical cord. I am sorry your middle class mommy didn't love you enough so you had to become obsessed with stupid anger-spewing theories about, well, everything. I mean, who knew, when your alterego Marion told the truth about lying, who knew you were even lying then. And, the fact that everything is a conspiracy must have meant that Figment, yeah, that Disney character, must have sold out your precious Marion to that European Zionist one world order for a bag of donuts. Plus, my left toe told me that it's really a rigged game because the aliens planted the "juice". I mean, it makes perfect sense. An undetectable drug only a drug dealer from California can see. It's all too fishy. It must really be the plot for Men in Black Part 3. Yes, I said Men in BLACK.

[quote]the Real UncleB wrote:

"Do please stop selectively quoting me and attributing arguments to me that are not mine".

Who are you, Don effin Rumsfeld? I copyu and paste your comments and you deny them?

You are selectively quoting me and attributing to me arguments which are not mine:

(1) First page, penultimate post:

You attribute a specific viewpoint with regards to Israel and Palestinian detainees to me with no basis for doing so.

(2) Second page, fourth post:

You do fully quote me, but then in addressing what I wrote you omit the words "100%", altering my argument.

(3) Second page, tenth post:

You quote half my pagagraph but omit the second part. The two parts were obviously linked.

(4) Third page, ninth post:

You quote from The Price is Wrong and then imply it is from me.

I have not denied anything I have written on this thread. I'm simply calling you out.

the Real UncleB wrote:

"The basis of my argument is NOT that there is a difference between "knowing something" and "being certain of it" ...More obviously there is a difference between "knowing something" and "being 100% certain of something".

Do you actually believe that makes some kind of sense? You claim that you are not saying that there is a difference between knowing something and being certain of it and then, in the very next sentence, state (and I quote) "obviously there is a difference between "knowing something" and "being 100% certain of something"." WTF? You are now arguing there is a difference between being certain and being 100% certain. R U really that stupid -- or is your ego just so fragile you cannot admit it when you are full of it? Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes, this does make sense. Here's how:

(1) In the first sentence I explained that a particular concept wasn't my argument. (I was explaining that because you seem to think it was my argument.)

(2) In the second sentence I explained that that concept was true.

(1) and (2) are not contraditory. Can you understand how? Suppose for example I am arguing that all conservatives are bigots. I might explain that Tegenkamp never running the 10km is not my argument. That doesn't mean it's not true, I am simply not using it for my argument.

Logic is your friend.

Of course there is a semantic difference between "knowing something" and "being 100% certain of something". I'm not saying there is a large difference. Just that the two expressions cannot be used interchangeably in all circumstances. Ergo, there is a difference between them.

the Real UncleB wrote:

PS, addin a bunch of gobbledy-gook like "(although of course there is obviously a linguistic and semantic nuance between these two different expressions which I'm sure you use differently depending on circumstance)" does not make you seem intelligent, in fact, it confirms your membership among the morons.

I don't understand what you don't understand about this.

The slightly sad thing about this whole affair is that I actually agree with Uncle B that there is some racism on these boards and I deplore that. I agree that when we come across racism we should call it out.

Unfortunately if we call out people for being racist when they are not being racist we lose a lot of credibility. We're like the boy who called out "wolf" in the fable, when the wolf does come nobody will listen. And worse than that we tend to annoy people and perhaps make people even less likely to be sympathetic to our cause.

I therefore urge Uncle B to consider his vigilante tactics carefully. I'd advise him to assume the best in people. For example, just because someone is moving to Tel Aviv, it doesn't mean they are going to do anything wrong. Assume the best in people always unless you get contradictory evidence.

In particular only call out someone for racism when you have evidence for it. It is pretty offensive to call someone out for racism for no reason.

Oh my God. This guy's ego is so fragile he cannot admit the obvious. I'm done with this guy