A higher score on SAT than your 5k time

hey look, I can do it too wrote:

Maybe we should do pole vaunt height PR's (in meters) and penis length. It's probably be much more interesting...and, realistic.

There is a reason I wear compression socks and it is not the pole vault.

For the pre-2006 test, a score of 1500+ put you in the top 1% of test takers.

What percentage of high school runners run 15:50 or faster for 5k? Much less than 1% I imagine. Maybe 1 in every 300 runners; let's say 0.33%.

If this is the case, then we are talking about a combination of endurance and academic aptitude that is found in only 0.0033% of the population.

Apparently there are around 57,000 high school runners each year. This means, on average, about 2 runners per year achieve this feat.

How does that reasoning sound? The only number that I just made up out of the blue is the percentage of high school runners running faster than 15:50.

I know weird that all of us are on letsrun at the same time, huh?

perfect letsrun wrote:

I know weird that all of us are on letsrun at the same time, huh?

There may be some confounders. High achievement in athletics and academics are likely correlated. Not to mention that you'd expect students who run fast to attend the sort of school that also has good teachers--attracting the best and the brightest. Quality tends to be concentrated. Distance runners and SAT studs are more heavily concentrated in the group of rich white kids who have access to the sorts of resources that produce fast times and good SAT scores.

Still, you wouldn't expect--at the most--more than 5 or 6 of these performers a year, right?

deleuze wrote:

For the pre-2006 test, a score of 1500+ put you in the top 1% of test takers.

What percentage of high school runners run 15:50 or faster for 5k? Much less than 1% I imagine. Maybe 1 in every 300 runners; let's say 0.33%.

If this is the case, then we are talking about a combination of endurance and academic aptitude that is found in only 0.0033% of the population.

Apparently there are around 57,000 high school runners each year. This means, on average, about 2 runners per year achieve this feat.

How does that reasoning sound? The only number that I just made up out of the blue is the percentage of high school runners running faster than 15:50.

Except that I would be willing to bet a lot of money that SAT and 5k time are highly correlated.

There's also an extreme selection bias going on here. It also seems like some of these posters were talking about post high school times.

I agree that there is probably a high degree of overlap between high achievers in long distance running and standardized test taking such as the SAT. However the OP posed a condition that would be a pretty incredible double. I am willing to bet fewer then a dozen people have actually ever done it. I just think it is funny because as we know on letsrun everyone fabricates their PRs. But what makes it hilarious is that probably the one thing people fabricate more is their SAT score.

It does not take away from the fact that it would be a very impressive double and would have been a great thing to strive to achieve.

I'm sure it's more than that. I have a couple of high school friends who did it (unless they're lying about their SATs, which doesn't seem likely when I look at where they went to school and how sharp they were in class).

To be fair, when I posted at first, I didn't realize we were talking about high school. I never ran a 5k in high school, and I wouldn't have been in the 15s if I had.

I am not so sure it is higher then that. How many legit 5ks are even run by high schoolers to begin with? You had two friends that did it? On legit courses. My guess is if yes on legit courses then either they lied about their SAT or you keep smart/fast company.

800 dude wrote:To be fair, when I posted at first, I didn't realize we were talking about high school. I never ran a 5k in high school, and I wouldn't have been in the 15s if I had.

+1

deleuze wrote:

800 dude wrote:To be fair, when I posted at first, I didn't realize we were talking about high school. I never ran a 5k in high school, and I wouldn't have been in the 15s if I had.

+1

+2

Of course I didn't quite make it, even with my post high school PR, so I wouldn't mess up the statistics anyway.

16:52

1420 SAT I

Not even close, but that's because I was, and am, a pretty average runner.

'Talk about having a sound mind and a sound body.'

This is a running site he is a jogger comparatively speaking being clever doesn't alter that

∴ you are a noob

edumocate me oh great sage

DocLove wrote:

'Talk about having a sound mind and a sound body.'

This is a running site he is a jogger comparatively speaking being clever doesn't alter that

Was this a sentence?

My 5k PR is higher than the old school SAT, so I failed. Wasn't even close actually.

1540 and 15:46, I'm pretty happy with both

1600 SAT 13:22 5k.

1520, 15:44

Should have retaken the SAT.