pr100 wrote:
http://www.ethiopianreview.com/articles/32874Haile G: "In total, I will normally run 160 miles or 220k in a week. That is the average."
Just because the fastest marathoner EVER does something doesn't mean you should.
He probably goes out and does mile repeats in like 4:15 each. Why don't you try that?
Wise Guy wrote:
pr100 wrote:http://www.ethiopianreview.com/articles/32874Haile G: "In total, I will normally run 160 miles or 220k in a week. That is the average."
Just because the fastest marathoner EVER does something doesn't mean you should.
He probably goes out and does mile repeats in like 4:15 each. Why don't you try that?
I wasn't making any recommendations... just trying to supply some data.
pr100 wrote:
Wise Guy wrote:Just because the fastest marathoner EVER does something doesn't mean you should.
He probably goes out and does mile repeats in like 4:15 each. Why don't you try that?
I wasn't making any recommendations... just trying to supply some data.
Didn't mean to bust your balls personally. It's just that a lot of people say, "Oh, you should run so many miles per week because so and so elite runner does it," and I feel that this is not necessarily the best way of thinking.
Ho Hum wrote:
What kind of times have you hit/what are your goals?
I'm not crazy fast or anything, but I'm interested in reaching the next level, whatever that is. My PRs are 15:21, 32:01, 1:12:24, and 2:35:24. I'd like to run 15:10, 31:20, 1:10, and 2:29. I think those are fairly reasonable. I have pretty crappy speed (2:00, 4:32) but I've always felt I could run a couple seconds faster in those events.
I do know that in after Halie struggled in his first few marathon attempts he moved from 200k per week to 220k per week and that is when he started breaking records. He said that extra 20k per week make the difference for him.
For those metricly challenges that is a movement from 124 to 136 miles per week.
And for those of you keeping track, that is now 3 of the greatest marathoners of all time who reguarly ran 135-140 miles per week: Frank Shorter, Bill Rodgers and Haile Geb.
And when Deana Kastor broke 2:20 she was doing 140 miles per week in training, Paula is reportedly in that same area as well.
There are world class marathoners who do only 90-100 miles per week, but for everyone one of them I can show you 3 or 4 equally as good or better who do 130-140 per week.
130-140 per week is the norm for world class marathoners.
The 98 percentile range is probably 80-180 with the core range (60%) being 120-150 per week.
It has been a while, but wasn't frank more like 120 a week with a 8 week peak of 140 during marathon build up?
So close but no luck wrote:
And for those of you keeping track, that is now 3 of the greatest marathoners of all time who reguarly ran 135-140 miles per week: Frank Shorter, Bill Rodgers and Haile Geb.
Well it sounds like you are all set to go. I see no reason why you shouldn't go for it. Just make sure that you listen to your body.
Good luck.
Are there any success stories from running this much? I know there are elites doin it, but has anyone cut any significant amount of time from this? Like a Brian Sell or Nate Jenkins?
So close but no luck wrote:
There are world class marathoners who do only 90-100 miles per week, but for everyone one of them I can show you 3 or 4 equally as good or better who do 130-140 per week.
130-140 per week is the norm for world class marathoners.
The 98 percentile range is probably 80-180 with the core range (60%) being 120-150 per week.
First of all, I don't agree with your facts. I think there is probably as many cases of 90-100 mpw guys running at the elite level (sub 2:08) as 130-140 mpw guys, especially when you consider East African runners. Did you read the Claudio Bernotoulli/Renato Canova thread from last year?
Not all miles are created equally. Guys who succeed at the 90-100 mpw range usually do so by running a higher percentage of their runs at MP or faster. Some athletes are able to train at MP 40% of the time during specific phases of training.
Wise Guy wrote:
pr100 wrote:http://www.ethiopianreview.com/articles/32874Haile G: "In total, I will normally run 160 miles or 220k in a week. That is the average."
Just because the fastest marathoner EVER does something doesn't mean you should.
He probably goes out and does mile repeats in like 4:15 each. Why don't you try that?
I think we've all done mile repeats at 10km pace. That's not a stretch.
So close but no luck wrote:Did you read the Claudio Bernotoulli/Renato Canova thread from last year?
Bernotoulli or Berardelli...whatever gets the job done. Right?
the rocket wrote:Did you read the Claudio Bernotoulli/Renato Canova thread from last year?
Sorry, that should have been the rocket who can't be bothered to get his names right. Ironic, isn't it?
best thread about this subject
go and read NikefreeMe posts
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=1143599&page=0
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I knew I should have looked up the spelling before I typed so I didn't get my head bitten off. My deepest apologies.
the rocket. wrote:
I think there is probably as many cases of 90-100 mpw guys running at the elite level (sub 2:08) as 130-140 mpw guys
ummm, yeah.... i'm gonna go ahead and say no, mmmkay...
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