Peter Coe worked in a factory and spent a lot of his time talking to commoners, whilst Little Lord Fauntleroy got to meet and socialise with loads of posh people.
Peter Coe worked in a factory and spent a lot of his time talking to commoners, whilst Little Lord Fauntleroy got to meet and socialise with loads of posh people.
Woodsy is - I love him!
Lyndsey is a great coach and his methods remind me of the Portugese system, in otherw ords, it might take you 15 years to get where you wnat to be but if you want to fulfill your potential thats what you have to do, be patient, keep chipping away. Nice bloke aswell, approachable and not one to crave attention, like so many others.... Jimmy Alder is a great guy aswell, but i would see him as more of a motivator than anything else, his enthusiasm is fantastic...
Try coaching yourself, its much better, you can listen to your body in training without having somebody set you 10 x 1k when your nackered from a race. I reckon like waz says you can get alot of knowledge and methods from biographies from 70s and 80s legends...principles always remain the same.
Mind, being motivated is a problem you (I) have to overcome if you are self cooached.
Is that the James Thie Plan?
Not me posting above, but i agree with the benefits of being self-coached- but its not for all. Its also good to have people to get advice on, so you are never 100% on your own. jt
I never had any proper coaching from anyone, not one coach who told me what sort of sessions I need to be doing. No structure, no information, just the usual crazy haphazard sessions that turn into races, that leave you tired for the real races.
Fortunately for you James, you have been able to figure it out before it was too late. Good luck with your training, it's good to see that British men's 1500m is exciting again.
You people with good coaches are lucky, maybe we should start a thread about the bad coaches hahahaha or how about most embarassing parents at races? oh the fun we could have.
Martin O'Neil is a manager not a coach, the best coach is the National Express from Leeds to London Victoria. Ratty is the best coach driver. In my opinion he not only drives well, but has good communication and decision making skills.
How on earth can anyone give 40 people individual attention, i don't think taht can work, he must eb cncentarting on some more tahn others surely...
LOL, Who do you mean waz, Bud Baldaro, or the coach driver?
JonnyO wrote:
I never had any proper coaching from anyone, not one coach who told me what sort of sessions I need to be doing. No structure, no information, just the usual crazy haphazard sessions that turn into races, that leave you tired for the real races.
Fortunately for you James, you have been able to figure it out before it was too late. Good luck with your training, it's good to see that British men's 1500m is exciting again.
You people with good coaches are lucky, maybe we should start a thread about the bad coaches hahahaha or how about most embarassing parents at races? oh the fun we could have.
Obviously you didn't mean it this way Jonny, but your post suggests that James is running well because he has managed to escape from bad coaches. As James will tell you himself, he had excellent coaching from Tom Watson while he was in Bristol and then from Mark Rowlands. He uses ideas learned from both of them. And what works for James would not work for everyone.
Cheers Ringer, I think it's great to have people to bounce ideas off, there must be thousands of good runners who don't know who to turn to for advice though.
it seems to me that Frank Horwill is plastering his over zealous advice all over every running magazine in Britain, there's no escape from the Loony until you come to this website. Just recently Mad Frankie was delivering his usual insane rant about how marathon runners dont need any more than his Magic 78 miles per week, one size fits all formula to World Domination. I know he does a lot of great work, but I just wish he would at least discuss things instead of trying to re-invent the wheel.
My vote for the best coach I ever had the pleasure of meeting is Bruce Tulloh, a Gentleman and a Scholar, but unfortunately now nearing retirement.
Kim Mc Donald (RIP) wins hands down.
There is no way Noah would have won in Sydney without Kim's help. Coaching is more than just setting a program for an athlete to follow, it's about getting that athlete believing that they can and will win.
"Great athlete's make great coaches", and I don't mean when the athlete starts coaching.
"Frank Horwill is no way the best coach in the United Kingdom. have you noticed that whenever he backs his theories up by giving examples of athletes he coaches its always tim hutchings."
Well, what do you know. Todays Athletics Weekly has an article by Frank Horwill accompanied by a big picture of none other then Tim Hutchings. The article is garbage.
Self coached wrote:
Try coaching yourself, its much better, you can listen to your body in training without having somebody set you 10 x 1k when your nackered from a race. I reckon like waz says you can get alot of knowledge and methods from biographies from 70s and 80s legends...principles always remain the same.
Mind, being motivated is a problem you (I) have to overcome if you are self cooached.
isnt the idea of a good coach that you can have some input, any coach that gives you 10 by 1k when your nackered after a race cant really be that great a coach. a good coach should know when to tell athletes to ease of as well as setting the tough sessions
True, True. I think thats key for coaches. The ones that work best with (and for) their athletes are the ones that will listen to others and not be so stuck in their ways that they are to blind to see that, either their athletes are too tired or that their athlete needs something more than the stuff they are setting (dont ask me to point fingers).
Its also true what Johnny O says about getting advice from coaches or more experienced athletes...very beneficial, as long as you know what to take and what to ignore!!!
I think good coaches are always easy to spot any way...Good group of young athletes. When an athlete is older I would suggest that more and more responsibility should lie with the athlete. A coach may be there as more of a guideline. A younger athlete needs to know what sort of training they should be doing where as an elder athlete should have picked up the knowledge over the years from the ages of -10 up to maybe around 25.
Just a thought...slate it as you wish.
Im not James Thie either...a few thousand miles apart.
Mick Woods has coached many athletes to a high level from nothing. It's all well and good saying all these coaches who have all these talented athletes, but it's those coaches who coach at grass roots levels that deserve all the credit.
It's only recently that Mick has taken on athletes from other clubs anyway as they realise his talent as a coach.
He gets mine and a lot of other people's votes.
P.S. Paul Wallace - nice guy, similar ideas to Woods.
If Mick woods has coached a lot of guys through to the top level where are all AFD's seniors? After all the junior age groups count for nothing...
Easy to coach kids...
Pipe wrote:
P.S. Paul Wallace - nice guy, similar ideas to Woods.
It's no co-incidence: the two of them are good friends and share alot of ideas.
Have u heard of Chris Thompson, waz? Could also say Louise Damen, Dave Mitchinson (until recently) and Olly Laws. Mick only started coaching fairly recently and it is only now that these good juniors are becoming good seniors.
Easy to coach kids is it? well why dont you become a coach then waz and give up your day job.
You obviously have no idea of the time Mick puts in - i'm not even going to try and educate you as you seem to ignorant of what coaching involves.