2011 Recruiting/ Commits

any financial aid given by a university is considered INSTITUTIONAL AID. does not matter if it is called scholarship, grant, or tuition waiver.

you'd have to give me an example of the financial aid you are talking about. you asked me which financial aid is exempt and I showed you the by law.

if the kid receives a scholarship, or grant based on merit, then it is exempt if they meet any of those thresholds.

at private schools almost NO ONE pays the full cost of attendance. financial aid isn't all NEED based it is also merit based and athletic scholarships are athletic based.

the original question was how does an expensive school like stanford sign all these kids. It is not because all these kids are rich and can afford to attend a very expensive school on a very small athletic award. It is because the ncaa provides exceptions for exempted aid and the university and athletic programs take advantage of these exemptions to be able to give this institutional aid in conjunction with athletic aid and remain competitive with the cheaper state schools.

maybe it is just semantics but it is important to note that all merit(academic awards) aid is considered FINANCIAL AID, but not all financial aid is merit aid.

athletic grants are FINANCIAL aid but not all Financial aid is athletic aid.

all need based aid is considered Financial aid, but not all financial aid is need based aid.

THE Ohio State University

Michael Brajdic (OH) broke Bob Kennedy's Ohio course record at Ohio State Meet, 9:08

Josh Sabo (OH) 4:12/1:53, 15:08 cross country

Brad Hess (IN) 3rd Indiana State Meet

Brian Hannaford (OH) 3rd state meet in Ohio, 9:19

Jeff Hannaford (OH) 9:20

Kaylin Mahoney to Columbia University in New York, was announced at the awards ceremony at today's CIF Southern Section Championships!!!

3 years ago Stanford and Ivy league schools began to grant full financial aid to ALL students (not just athletes) that were admitted whose parents couldn't afford the cost of attendance with this amount set around 180k per family. So anyone from a family making less than this would be free to athletics is my understanding.

Watch this girl- very rare steady, consistent improvement since 7th grade.

She will be a great one.

Real ??????? wrote:

3 years ago Stanford and Ivy league schools began to grant full financial aid to ALL students (not just athletes) that were admitted whose parents couldn't afford the cost of attendance with this amount set around 180k per family. So anyone from a family making less than this would be free to athletics is my understanding.

This is completely true. How else do you think all these studs can afford Stanford? Do people really think these guys would go to Stanford if they were going to have so much debt when they would be offered near-FULL scholarships almost anywhere.

Stanford, Wisconsin, and Oregon can go way beyond 12.6 limit with financial aid offices set up to help. That, or you can place all your money in distance area (Oklahoma State, Providence, etc.)

It is not a level playing field by any extent insde the cross ciuntry world. Give programs a break sometimes!

the fluehr twins are going to princeton

UCLA BRUINS-

Lane Werley (King H.S.)

Myles Andrews (Long Beach Poly H.S.)

Philip Kostelnik (Loyola H.S.)

Nathaniel Cushing-Murray (Foothill H.S.)

John-Logan Hines(FL)

Phil Duncan(FL)

Tyler Cardillo(FL)

All 3 plus Jimmy Clark are going to the University of Florida.

They are funded at 100% of NEED, not 100% of cost. So a FAFSA could show an EFC (estimated family contribution) of $20,000 per year, and the family would be expected to pay that much.

Then athletic scholarship could kick in. However, once athletic money is added, any institutional aid (athletic and other institutional sources)that does not meet the academic exemptions would count toward the maximums.

Elias Gedyon (sp?) and Amar Moussa to Cal Berkeley....you heard it here first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone going to Wisconsin? Looks like all the top kids are going to stanford or oklahoma state.

Courtney Chapman (FM) to villanova

nyrunner523 wrote:

Courtney Chapman (FM) to villanova

i cannot believe nova wants her! she is not going to do anything in college!

Are there any new news on recruiting?? How about the Sprinters & Fielders too?

The Hollister twins have signed with Fort Hays State University. Big news.

Savannah Pio to Cal Poly

Kaylin Mahoney to Columbia

and Elias Gedyon to Oregon