Why does everyone hate Rupp so much?

Your analogy to sprinters (srinters (sic)) is weak. The dude is not a sprinter and neither is this board about sprinting (Bolt/Gey/Dix aside). And perhaps we're all mental midgets and you're some genius, but it doesn't take a lot to see why Rupp is bagged-on here more then other US elites, Lagat and Meb and the foreigner bashing squad aside.

Anyone else run into the "use respect on this message board" warning? Apparently Rupp + Gey with an 'a' is screened? Hahahahah, oh man. This board is seriously jacked up.

I'm sorry I find this thread counter productive. While the intentions of this thread were good, in attempt to perhaps limit the Rupp bashing, I feel this is only going to ignite the fire. Anytime you go after a group of bashers you make their voices heard. You give them a chance to voice how they feel, which only adds fuel the fire and sometimes gets people on board to what they are thinking. The best way is to just let it go and not even talk about the bashers. Right now all of the bashers are rejoicing because they have mentioned in a thread, they have been outed, their voices have been heard.

Hey OP, sorry buddy. I know you had good intentions.

I am anti-tool, not jealous.

For example, I like Ryan Hall, Meb, and Solinsky, who are all more accomplished than Rupp. Sure I would like to run like any of these guys, but if I hated everyone that was better than me, why would I say I like those guys? It's not a jealous thing. I'll never run a 2:06 or a 27:10, and I respect the talent, but I don't have to think highly of everyone with that kind of talent.

For me, being anti-tool also makes me dislike Josh Cox and Adam Goucher. Meanwhile I like Bob Kennedy and Alan Culpepper.

Hey maybe I'm wrong and Galen Hall, Josh Cox, and Adam Goucher are all cool guys. But they all seem kinda weaselly and lame to me. Plus they're slow. LMAO

Maybe this is why wrote:

I am anti-tool, not jealous.

For example, I like Ryan Hall, Meb, and Solinsky, who are all more accomplished than Rupp.

Define "more accomplished" in relation to 6 ncaa titles, a sweep of 3 indoor ncaa races, a 5K-10K sweep, various junior/collegiate/american records at 3K, 5K, 10K PRs from 1:49 to 27:10 at age 24, 4 international teams (at age 23), 2 us titles (at age 24).

shortyc wrote:

Anyone else run into the "use respect on this message board" warning? Apparently Rupp + Gey with an 'a' is screened? Hahahahah, oh man. This board is seriously jacked up.

Tom Cruise has the same screening rule. You can't use his name and Gey with an 'a'. He can't stand it.

Are you serious?

Meb has a silver medal in the Olympics and won the NYC marathon, which I think trumps 13th in the Olympics and some NCAA titles.

Ryan Hall has had an insane professional road racing career with a 3rd at Boston and a 59 minute half, 10th in the Olympics.

As far as I'm concerned, top finishes in professional road races trump NCAA titles.

Solinsky is faster than Rupp heads up at both 5 and 10K this year.

Sure he's only 24 but the point I made was regarding accomplishments. I place much higher regard on Olympic silvers or 3rd at Bostons than an NCAA title. If and when your boy does these things, then let's talk.

One thing Rupp must get rid of is his habit of wanting everyone to congratulate him when he wins. He loves hugging people he finishes ahead of. When he doesn't win his behavior is less than acceptable. He doesn't do himself any good by being a kind of Jekyll and Hyde.

To summarize:

themanontherun wrote:

I wonder if it's the same kind of thing as the attitude people seem to take towards people in general who are given opportunities and make the most out of them. Someone who grew up in a rich home, for example, with Ivy educated parents might get looked down on for making a lot of money, even if that person was putting in long hours of studying and hard work to get where they are. To the minds of many, it doesn't matter how hard you work, you will always be judged on what help you were given along the way.

A lot of people, myself included, feel a bit jealous of his pampering from early HS. I'm sure we've all imagined how well we could have done with a world class coach monitoring our every move for that long, keeping us injury-free, and giving us access to the full extent of Nike resources and athletes. Rupp has been pampered far more than anyone else, and we want to justify that by saying he wouldn't have been tough enough to accomplish as much on his own. Maybe he would not have... Judging by his race toughness, I'd say he would.

We'll never know how he would handle the normal runner's struggles. He lived our dream ever since his entry to the sport.

"keeping us injury free"? Nobody and nothing can do that. Why do you think webb, ritz, teg and jager have all spent a good deal of the past year injured while using all the same resources Rupp and Solinsky (who are not injured)have? Some people get injured a lot, some a little, some almost never, that is just luck and not some secret method only Rupp has access to.

My guess is only a handful of guys (like Ritz and Solinsky) actually would have been willing to go through the physical hell that Rupp has for the past 7 or so years with Salazar. Some of nikes top guys back when Rupp was a high schooler said he did tougher and in some cases better workouts then they ever had and these were the guys making world teams. He was a high schooler. The guy is a mental machine. He's been luckier than most in a lot of ways, but his mental toughness is an asset of it's own and it's made more impact on his running career than any other factor.

In fact I'd be willing to bet he would have had faster PR's along the way if he had not had salazar and had gone to a school like stanford to run simply because he would have rested more often and been able to squeeze that final 1.5% out of himself in races that he couldn't under Salazars insane regimine. Look at last year. He said indoor NCAA's was the first time he'd really ever tapered and look at the results he went from never winning a single track title to crushing everyone in 3 separate races, most of whom were only racing one or two events.

When you finish a hard 5K or 10K with a tough workout you are not going to be very fresh for your next race be it next week or two weeks later. You are going to race on fairly flat legs. That is what Rupp has really done throughout the majority of his career and why he keeps progressing. He has never really rested up and squeezed every ounce out on a euro circuit and he's not going to. They are looking at the big prize which is long term. I don't know how anyone can argue with the logic considering the results and progression.

Maybe this is why wrote:

Are you serious?

Meb has a silver medal in the Olympics and won the NYC marathon, which I think trumps 13th in the Olympics and some NCAA titles.

Ryan Hall has had an insane professional road racing career with a 3rd at Boston and a 59 minute half, 10th in the Olympics.

As far as I'm concerned, top finishes in professional road races trump NCAA titles.

Solinsky is faster than Rupp heads up at both 5 and 10K this year.

Sure he's only 24 but the point I made was regarding accomplishments. I place much higher regard on Olympic silvers or 3rd at Bostons than an NCAA title. If and when your boy does these things, then let's talk.

Wow, seriously?. Every point could be countered excessively because you are avoiding context and picking only the cherries from each single runner and matching it against Rupp. For example Rupp has never been worse than 13th in 4 different international championships and only 2 have been double digit placings and they were as a 21 and 22 year old. Meb on the other hand has several double digit placings, more so than his single digit placings and that includes one in the 20s! Solinsky is faster than Rupp this year? They ran a single 10K because there are no others, and even Solinsky knows and has admitted his next 10K will not likely be as rosey. Rupp has been faster than Solinsky for 3000 this year, and kept him from going to worlds. The summer isn't even over yet. You are also talking about a guy who is just getting into his professional career and comparing him with guys that have had 3-10 years to rack up their professional resume.

Why don't you go ahead and look up the resumes of the guys you mentioned regarding their international championships and come back. Rupp went 11th, 13th (olympics), 8th and 5th respectively all by age 23. He has progressed every international race since the olympics as a 22 year old. At 23 he's WAY ahead of where they were.

Go ahead and list meb, solinsky and halls. Go on put it down.

Like I said, Meb had more double digit finishes than single digits. Solinsky only has one international championship and it came at 24, it was a double digit at worlds. Hall has had some great road races (as has meb), and actually given what he's done at london, in the half, and at the olympic trials he choked at his only international championship with a double digit finish. Ohh he did run one more international championship which was a gimme qualification, the world cross champs, he was 43rd as a 24 year old. Rupp just turned 24, do you think he would finish 43rd at the world cross champs? As far as the roads go, those guys didn't even get into that until they were done struggling on the track, how do we know Rupp won't rock on the roads. He beat Shadrack Kiptoo (61 minute half marathoner) by over a minute on a flat 10K cross course. What could he do over a half marathon?

Don't get me wrong, all these guys have done very impressive things but none of them have international championship careers that match up with Rupps, let alone by the time the were 23. Meb has a silver on the roads but if you look at his average (11th) or mean (12th)it double digits while Rupp is 9th on both accounts with his best years ahead of him. It should also be noted that 2 of Rupps international championships were run after full NCAA indoor and outdoor seasons, not the same as Meb who trained as a pro to peak for an international championship.

Rupp = DNF. DNF = Reality.

DNF = Did Not Finish wrote:

Rupp = DNF. DNF = Reality.

Yes, nothing Rupp did before this DNF matters, nothing he does afterwards will erase the shame of this DNF. Rupp = DNF.

German Fernandez will soon have the WR in the 5000m, and nobody will care about Solinsky and the rest of the pitiful 12:5X Americans either.

On July 31 in Heusden-Zolder, Belgium, he broke Gerry Lindgren’s 40-year old U.S. high school record for 5,000 meters by almost seven seconds, running 13:37.91 for the distance. He finished his high school career with a 10,000 meter race of 29:09.56 in Brasschaat, Belgium, fourth fastest 10K ever for an American schoolboy.

After graduating from high school in the summer of 2004, Rupp took a semester off and then went on to run track and cross country for the University of Oregon.

For the record, German Fernandez is a stupid name. If your surname is Fernandez, why would you name your kid German? I know, how about Chinese O'Mally? Namimbian Finkelstein? Afghanistan Lee?

Well, my original question has certainly been answered! I think we can all move on now!!

"...The title of this thread should read as follows:

Why do a small handful of mental midgets hate Rupp so much, and why are they so incessant about it?..."

Well said.

Maybe this is why wrote:

http://www.exposay.com/galen-rupp-2009-track-and-field---ncaa-indoor-championships-at-the-mcferrin-athletic-center---day-1/p/28356/11/

Look at this picture...if you never heard of this guy, what would you think of him?

HAHAHAHAHHAA WHAT a loser, no wonder everybody hates that bird brain. lololol I laughed so hard.