How Many letsrunners weigh 150 can bench 150 and run sub 15?

158 pounds - 185 bench - 14:40 5k... In all honesty nothing to brag about. I would trade for 135 pounds, 100 bench and 1400 anyday...

Right before my BB show I was 155, maxing out 245 bench....but nowhere near sub 15 shape, or sub 16 shape, or sub 17 shape for that matter. Well, maybe sub 17. I could crank out a 5:30 mile on the track and it sort of felt like 5k effort...;) I looked like a sherman tank on the track.

Also...

Malmo:

"Paul Stemmer, weighed 120 and could bench 285"

I'm not buying that...weighing 120lb and benching 285 would put him in some pretty elite company AND being a pretty damn fast distance runner. If it didn't touch the chest it's not a bench press.

Alan

Oh...and wondering if someone who weighs 150, runs sub 15 and can bench 150 is similar to saying someone who weighs 200, can bench 400, and run a sub 25:00 5k.

ANY male who walks into a gym can bench 150lb in less than a month.

Alan

no prob

So how would all you Herculean benchers do in a Pump and Run?

I've seen the Arnold one in Columbus a couple of times, and to have a prayer of competing you have to hit the limit of 30 reps of your own body weight (70% for women, and descending with age)

Last year's winner did the 30 reps with a 16:16 for a net time of 1:16.

Could anyone run sub 15 and still do the 27 or 28 reps needed to beat that?

I ran 15:21.63 (Such a memorable race for me) and could definitely bench press 150 lbs at the time (I lifted 8x135 lbs without killing myself, never tried a one rep max)

The problem is I weighed 165 at the time! I don't think I could ever get down to 150, I'm 5'11" but have huge legs. Like monster tree trunks.

So to answer the question I guess no, yes, no (but relatively close)

This is motivational. I'm 6'2" 150' have run 14:56, but probably more of a 10k guy. Don't lift, but I'm positive that I can't bench 150. Time to hit the gym.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Malmo:

"Paul Stemmer, weighed 120 and could bench 285"

I'm not buying that...weighing 120lb and benching 285 would put him in some pretty elite company AND being a pretty damn fast distance runner. If it didn't touch the chest it's not a bench press.

Alan

Alan, the crowd is giggling. Stemmer was a freak of nature. He's also never been sick a day in his life. Are you not buying that either?

This is not photoshop or a trick of shadows or camera angle. This is what Stem looks like when he's picking up a tuna sandwich.

I stand corrected Malmo. Freak he is. How is he 120lb with that upper body?

Alan

Father, if you did 135 for 8 you'd likely hit close to 165-70 for a single. Without training to do so though I'd peg you at 160...165 for sure if you trained with deuces and triples.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

I stand corrected Malmo. Freak he is. How is he 120lb with that upper body?

Alan

Because his legs are little pins.

All of the meatheads you've ever seen in your gym pumping iron day and night could never match what Stem was given naturally.

I watched him take 3rd in the Northwest Benchpress Championships in about 1989 or 90. The only reason why he got 3rd was becasue the guy who won had two prosthetic legs and he weighed in without them. He should have been 210-220. the guy that got 2nd was a midget. His arms were only about a foot long so all he had to do was move the bar just a touch and he'd get a good lift. It was a circus.

Stem made it to the finals of the Penn State Intermural wrestling championships before our coach found out and made him drop out. Think about it Alan, the finals of Penn States's IM Wrestling Champs? that says a lot.

"I watched him take 3rd in the Northwest Benchpress Championships in about 1989 or 90..."

That was going to be my next question. Unequipped, 285 bench at 120lb would be a top tier bench at a meet. I wondered if he competed.

"Stem made it to the finals of the Penn State Intermural wrestling championships..."

Did bullets bounce off his chest as well? Damn dude, this guy was an athletic freak of nature. This makes you think hard about all the physiological crap we are taught in college. These two extremes (top tier bench by wt class and top tier 5k time) don't usually coexist.

Midgets....they should have a separate competition. Most of the winners/record holders in those light weight classes are dominated by midgets...

How about a 123lb midget benching 463 (equipped of course).

http://www.antonkraft.com/home/

Alan

167 pounds, 14:56 5K. Not sure exactly what I can bench, but I'm sure it is a bit over 150, though nothing very impressive. I agree with the others who say that bench pressing 150 pounds is nothing compared to getting into sub-15 shape.

Someone deleted my post??? WTF

In summary:

"Think about it Alan, the finals of Penn States's IM Wrestling Champs? that says a lot."

It says that upstate NY is a great wrestling area as Paul was good,but not great high school wrestler. He did not win sectionals or counties in upstate NY.

He weighed 130's in high school.

He was small, and certainly could bench over 250.

He did not weigh 120 in college.

I weigh 130, can bench 130 and have run sub 13 does that count?

I believe the 285 bench part, but I don't believe the dude in that pic weighed 120. I have a female runner/duathlete friend who is skinny as hell, like scary skinny, and I weighed her one day at my house and she was 108. No way that dude only outwweighed her by 12 pounds. Maybe he is a hell of alot shorter than he looks.

Erin Donahue lists her weight as 140 I think. She outweighs that dude by 20 pounds?

"The only reason why he got 3rd was becasue the guy who won had two prosthetic legs and he weighed in without them."

That anecdote is Twain-worthy.

malmo wrote:

Agreed Brian. When I was in college I weighed 150 and could bench 205, and ran 13:53.

Malmo,

that is quite impressive, do you lift throughout college and post collegiate

Many years ago...

142 lbs.

210 lbs bench.

14:25.x 5k.

Topday...

165 lbs.

240 lbs bench.

Probably a 17:30 to 18:00 5k. (I run 5 days a week, but haven't raced since graduating college.