Ummm, you bring up talk of past performances and then say that the US's recent past perfromance against possibly the best team in the world has no relevance???
Does that make sense?
This matchup reminds me of the NCAA indoor 800, and in this case the USA is the little underdog Robby Andrews and England is that big expectation and experience that is Andrew Wheating. Well....
This is What I think will happen in Group C.
EvU: 2-0
AvS: 1-1
SvU: 1-1
EvA: 3-0
SvE: 1-2
UvA: 1-0
So England will end up with 9 points, Algeria will end up with 1, Slovenia will end up with 2, and USA will end up with 4 points.
The point of bringing up Spain was not relevant to the match between USA and England. I brought up matches between England and USA because it added to my point that USA is mentally defeated already. Hope that clarifies.
England will drop points somewhere along the way. If its not the USA, it will be somewhere else. I have it:
England 1 - 2 USA
Algeria 0 - Slovenia
Slovenia 1 - 2 USA
England 2 - 0 Algeria
Slovenia 1 - 2 England
USA 0 - 1 Algeria
England 6 pts (+2 GD)
USA 6 pts (+1 GD)
Algeria 4 pts
Slovenia 1 pt
England wins the group of goal differential.
Doubt England wins all three. They are bound to choke at some point. Its what they do best.
And if they lose?????
fellowfootballmate wrote:
I'll bump this thread when England beats USA
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World Cup Willie wrote:
What will the score be tomorrow?
What sport?
fellowfootballmate wrote:
The point of bringing up Spain was not relevant to the match between USA and England. I brought up matches between England and USA because it added to my point that USA is mentally defeated already. Hope that clarifies.
Ohhhhhhh, okaaaaay. I thought you were attempting to say that past teams with different players and different coaches reflected current players and coaches, which obviously you were not.
I would think a team that wasn't scared of quality team such as Spain just last year, surely wouldn't be scared of a team with a history of choking and now comes in lame.
I predict English soccer VS the US follows the same pattern as it's athletics/track.
fellowfootballmate wrote:
...while England has and will always be a football juggernaut. It's seen as their national sport (although officially it isn't), and are passionate about it.
Huh? Juggernaut? Not if judged by, say, results. England is a consistently solid second tier team, nothing more, nothing less. They've only made it past the quarterfinals twice in the history of the World Cup, and once in the history of the Euro Cup. Their all time record is 502-211-168. Good, but not exactly a juggernaut. They're better than the US (probably), but they're not Brazil. Or Spain. Or Germany. Or, historically, Italy. Or even Argentina.
RobbyA wrote:
fellowfootballmate wrote:The point of bringing up Spain was not relevant to the match between USA and England. I brought up matches between England and USA because it added to my point that USA is mentally defeated already. Hope that clarifies.
Ohhhhhhh, okaaaaay. I thought you were attempting to say that past teams with different players and different coaches reflected current players and coaches, which obviously you were not.
Not sure if you were being sarcastic, but I never once said that England will beat USA solely because they haven't won a match since 1993. Of course there are different players and coaches. If you weren't being sarcastic, disregard this message.
NO
“home field advantage”
“backline”
“goal differential”
YES
"home advantage"
"defence"
"goal difference"
kohlberg wrote:
fellowfootballmate wrote:...while England has and will always be a football juggernaut. It's seen as their national sport (although officially it isn't), and are passionate about it.
Huh? Juggernaut? Not if judged by, say, results. England is a consistently solid second tier team, nothing more, nothing less. They've only made it past the quarterfinals twice in the history of the World Cup, and once in the history of the Euro Cup. Their all time record is 502-211-168. Good, but not exactly a juggernaut. They're better than the US (probably), but they're not Brazil. Or Spain. Or Germany. Or, historically, Italy. Or even Argentina.
lol spain a juggernaut? they haven't even won a world cup. England has made it into the final tournament 11 times since 1950. Look up some history on Spain and tell me how many times they have qualified (don't count before 1950, as some teams didn't enter). Spain has only had success these past 8 years (and that's being generous).
World Cup Willie wrote:
What will the score be tomorrow?
Saturday.
Spain are the perennial chokers.
Look up choking in the dictionary and you'll see a little picture of Spain.
They've been favourites for so many World Cups and they barely even make it out of the groups.
That said, I've backed them this time and also backed a Spain/Holland final at 22/1.
It's on!
THe final score will be 2-2.
So far I'm right...
fellowfootballmate wrote:
So far I'm right...
Yes, but only 'so far'.
So far I am right...
the most bullshit goal ive ever seen. We'll come back.