ACC Men's 3000 DQ -- Cost VT the team title

Leeder did not have a full stride lead and can not cut in.

Mulherin had the choice of either being knocked off the track or stiff arm.

Leeder was at fault.

/your argument

I heard the VT runner in question call an FSU coach "a f*cking cock" and the coach simply tell a VT coach to get his athlete under control.

The AD from Virginia Tech must be soo proud of his coach and his athletes - so must the ACC.

dddd wrote:

I'm glad he got DQ'ed. Mulherin is and always will be a douche.

I'm not a fan of either the chokies, or FSU but I will say that the call is crap. Leeder was impeding Mulherin's stride. I was by the start line and as a runner I can say that in that situation most people would make the same decision unless you want your momentum completely shot. There were "bows" thrown both ways and it seems the offical action taken was excessive. Besides it seems if you DQ one you need to DQ both. Maybe UNC should have won?

Mulherin had the choice of not letting the guy pass him in the first place by using his legs to run faster.

He can guard his space with his arm but not extend his hand out.

batman1234 wrote:

dddd wrote:

I'm glad he got DQ'ed. Mulherin is and always will be a douche.

I'm not a fan of either the chokies, or FSU but I will say that the call is crap. Leeder was impeding Mulherin's stride. I was by the start line and as a runner I can say that in that situation most people would make the same decision unless you want your momentum completely shot. There were "bows" thrown both ways and it seems the offical action taken was excessive. Besides it seems if you DQ one you need to DQ both. Maybe UNC should have won?

Whether or not the call was crap, that doesn't excuse the athlete from being acting out like he did after the fact.

More likely right after based on the vid.

lolwutt wrote:

Leeder did not have a full stride lead and can not cut in.

Mulherin had the choice of either being knocked off the track or stiff arm.

Leeder was at fault.

/your argument

Leeder was not "cutting-in" when the contact happened. Leeder was already ahead at that point. Watch the video you want to flaunt in our faces. Mulherin does not break stride once so Leeder did not commit a foul. But Mulherin does not have room to get by Leeder without pushing him out of the way. Leeder is in front and it is his space that is being impeeded upon my Mulherin. When Leeder tries to protect his space that was rightfully gained when he PASSED Mulherin, Mulherin decides to push and shove his way through the inside. Busted by the official. Upheld by the meet referee. Get the violins out.

I can't tell what the contact before the big stiff arm was. I can't tell if the VT runner or the FSU runner threw the elbow before the second big shove. Regarless, the big stiff arm was uncessicary and done right in front of the officials, so if for nothing else he should have been DQ'd for stupidity.

another view wrote:

This is likely from before the contact.

http://e.imagehost.org/view/0743/acc3k

"Canadian Pansy"

More classy commentary from the Hokies. I'm sure the Tech coaches and AD would be impressed with Matt Saunders FB page.

another former acc runner wrote:

Whether or not the call was crap, that doesn't excuse the athlete from being acting out like he did after the fact.

Ad hominem and irrelevant to this discussion. Feel free to start a new thread about getting your panties in a twist over passionate athletes celebrating if that's what you're into.

Anyone know if it's possible for the VT coaches to appeal the DQ call?

Throwin Bows wrote:

Anyone know if it's possible for the VT coaches to appeal the DQ call?

They did and they lost the appeal. Grow up.

Wow you ACC pussies need to grow a pair. Pushing/Shoving happens in races. Just look at Big Tens... someone hit the deck in every distance race and no DQs handed out. Luciano and Peacock in the 3k, Ahmed in the 5k, and Mellon in the 800. Believe it or not but track is a contact sport.

Norm wrote:

send those points to Durham as we need them

perhaps more coaching and less useless message board posting would do the trick norm.....

Homeboy better take it easy posting all of that shit to facebook. I wouldn't want to be documenting all of that smack talking.

I don't care what you think or how passionate you are, you don't go posting somebody's personal web page here. State your case, post links to photos or vids, but leave the personal info and insults out of it.

I believe the rule is a stride and a half before cutting in. It does not appear from pics or vid that FSU guy had that, but I was not there. The officials made the call.

TooPersonal wrote:

I don't care what you think or how passionate you are, you don't go posting somebody's personal web page here.

If it's on the internet, it isn't personal. Get used to it.

ntn wrote:

If it's on the internet, it isn't personal. Get used to it.

Unfortunately, this is true.

I actually turned down a potential clerkship the other day due to facebook comments.

Be careful.

law book wrote:

They did and they lost the appeal. Grow up.

Thanks for the info, I didn't realize they had already appealed. Appreciate the unnecessary jab, jackass.

You're the jackass, jackass!