Another marathon cheater

If I was going to cheat, I probably wouldn't deck myself out in the brightest neon colors possible.

Agree that busting cheaters is the one thing that everyone who frequents this website can agree on.

I particularly loved dx2coach's recount of his cheater experiences.

Just look at the picture of this 3:40 marathoner dressed in that ridiculous outfit as he crosses the line. He just broke his PR by a half-hour, but he looks like a criminal as he crosses the line.

I wish I had that job that D2XC guy has. I'd review every single negative-split finisher. It's amazing how many people cheat like this...

he's a colorful dude

and he likes his hats pulled low

It seems that a lot of the cheating dudes wear tights, belts and weird shiny clothes. The cap pulled low is not to be recognized when they cut the course.

I wonder if he will try and redeem himself like "finman" next...

Wejos Third Leg wrote:

This whole topic rubs me the wrong way. Not how I like it. I'm gonna go back down now and hang for a little bit.

Adam Lambert wrote:

How 'bout I rub you the right way, big boy?

As I learned from my dear friend Christina, I'm a genie in a bottle, baby. You gotta rub me the right way. Come, come, come and let me out.

Seems like a more effective way to cheat would be to cut the first half. Nobody would question a 1:20/1:40.

Two more. A TNT coach who cheated in 2007 and 2009 in NYC. She has been removed from official results.

http://citycoach.typepad.com/weblog/2009/11/cheater-you-decide.html

And this dude printed his own bib in NYC. check out brightroom for 12345

http://citycoach.typepad.com/weblog/2009/11/open-letter-to-a-cheater.html

Wow - the above blog has a very entertaining cheaters section. It's a veritable rogue's gallery of cheaters. Really impressive work by its author.

Here's 2 more for you, both good stories to offset all the mat missing cheaters out there...

1) A case of "big negative split can be legit"...A guy on my XC team about 5 years ago ran splits of something like 1:55/1:35 at Philly. He was a ~29:30 8k guy so the 2nd half split is plausible. Why the huge discrepancy? First 10 miles he paced a friend at 10:00/mile pace, then he ran in at 7:00 pace. Shows you splits alone don't tell the whole story (95% of the time they do).

2) A case of "yes there are honest runners out there"...Checking the results for the race I work for in 2008, had a runner who missed the 20 mile chip mat and had 1st half/2nd half splits that were out of line. Before I even get into the office Monday morning I've got an email from this guy that says; "Pull me from your results. I stopped right after mile 19 and walked back to the finish area to turn in my chip and meet my family (mile 19 is right next to mile 23). When I got to the finish area my kids were excited to see me so I ran through the finish line with them." How cool that this guy was proactive and understood that race results mean something no matter where you finish.

holy cow.. he did it again in Boston... hope the BAA will bust him

#8224 Schoppmann, Ken 45 M Washington DC USA

Checkpoints

5k 0:23:18

10k 0:49:00

15k 1:14:09

20k 1:40:35

Half 1:46:33

25k -

30k -

35k -

40k -

0:07:50 3:25:03

Overall Gender Division

5720 4892 722

holy cow.. he did it again in Boston... hope the BAA will bust him

#8224 Schoppmann, Ken 45 M Washington DC USA

Checkpoints

5k 0:23:18

10k 0:49:00

15k 1:14:09

20k 1:40:35

Half 1:46:33

25k -

30k -

35k -

40k -

0:07:50 3:25:03

Overall Gender Division

5720 4892 722

He split 1:46, 1:39

What is so hard about that to believe?

stuck with match.com wrote:

He split 1:46, 1:39

What is so hard about that to believe?

Isn't it a little suspicious that his later splits never seem to register somehow?

Also, based on his other times, I don't see how he can run a 1:22 HM... He has no other PR's at that pace, even for like 5k. Even the 1:39 is hard to believe...

he cheated big time in Richmond, more than once in fact, got busted for it.

no splits for 25 - 40k, but a finishing time? explain that?

he has one foto on the course - one!

splitsville wrote:

That's a 1:40/1:54 split. A minute per mile is not significant?

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You might want to consider he bonked in the second half.

Walking throws the pace way off.

I have run 2:25 for most of my marathons, but was forced to walk once, and had a 1:11 first half and almost 1:45 second half.

It happens.

The marathon can be a mean, cruel lady if you are not prepare. I wasn't that time.

Maybe he wasn't either.

How about this guy who claims he ran 105 marathons in 2008 but has only one result on marathonguide.com under the name "Lawrence Macon" and zero results under "Larry Macon"?

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-243-297--13187-0,00.html

http://www.marathonguide.com/results/search.cfm

Could it be that he didnt make the time cutoff in all but one of the 105 marathons?

caveman wrote:

How about this guy who claims he ran 105 marathons in 2008 but has only one result on marathonguide.com under the name "Lawrence Macon" and zero results under "Larry Macon"?

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-243-297--13187-0,00.htmlhttp://www.marathonguide.com/results/search.cfm

Could it be that he didnt make the time cutoff in all but one of the 105 marathons?

No. It's because you can't spell. His first name is Laurence--with a U not W. Try that search at marathonguide.com again and tell us what you find.