USA cross coverage

use the force luke wrote:

Sully wrote:

"Perhaps they backed off."

ha, that's a good one.

assuming that they were going to worlds and had already been gapped by fernandez, if not then of course not. I don't know how many us cross championships you have raced in or witnessed, but the finish order here is often not the same order as at worlds.

Yep, different courses usually yield different results. They did not back off. They simply got their asses beat.

Yeah they did, that was nuts. He must have thrown down a huge move to open up like that over the last loop! Strange thing is they all looked ok as they finished, tired but not dead.

In a qualifier race.

so let me get this straight, we will not be able to see coverage of this race?

I hate to say it but NYRR should manage all of these things. At least they can get the race some TV coverage and get video and pics up on their website. This is ridiculous.

Reliant Aries wrote:

In a qualifier race.

And that's why neither Puskedra nor Derrick are National Champion.

30-second videos on RunnerSpace is what we will see of most of these races. No live stream, no lengthy videos, just some short videos and a bunch of twitter feeds.

Anybody have the Junior Boy's results for more than just the top 3??

J.R. wrote:

http://www.usatf.org/events/2009/USAXCChampionships/Results/jw.asp

1 452 Neely Spence 18 Shippensburg PA unattached 20:43

2 338 Ashley Brasovan 18 Wellington FL unattached 20:57

3 298 Alexandra Dunne 17 San Clemente CA South Coast XC Elite 21:05

4 401 Allie McLaughlin 18 Colorado Springs C unattached 21:10

5 467 Sara Vaughn 18 Tulsa OK unattached 21:32

6 259 Emily Pritt 18 North Canton OH North Carolina State University 21:44

7 299 Molly Grabill 16 Poway CA South Coast XC Elite 21:46

8 572 Rolonda Jumbo 15 Santa Fe NM Wings of America 21:48

Heck yeah, Oklahoma girl right there! Way to represent Sara!!!

Fernandez repeated at Junior Champion. Has anyone done that before?

The fact that it doesn't really matter renders the wherefores and whys moot. It doesn't mean much to win this title and it doesn't mean much to not win it. Ritzenhein wasn't hurt by not winning it and Billy Nelson wasn't hurt by winning it. What really matters is how they do at WXC, as at least the top 3 today should have been training past this race to peak in March.

McGregor dropped out?

Looks windy out there....

Place Num Name S Ag Hometown Time

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1 25 German Fernandez M 18 Stillwater OK 23:20

2 303 Christopher Derrick M 18 Naperville IL 23:39

3 495 Luke Puskedra M 18 Eugene OR 23:53

4 257 Ryan Hill M 19 Hickory NC 24:35

5 308 Patrick Dupont M 18 Fairport NY 24:39

6 309 Francisco Medrano M 18 Lafayette IN 24:42

7 497 Joey Bywater M 19 Seattle WA 24:50

8 262 Ryan Prentice M 18 Normandy Park WA 24:55

9 359 Eric Fernandez M 18 Ballwin MO 24:55

10 370 Griffith Graves M 18 Abingdon VA 24:55

11 414 Bobby Nicolls M 18 Parker CO 25:02

12 256 Patrick Campbell M 18 Mooresville NC 25:02

13 111 Kyle Merber M 18 Dix Hills NY 25:05

14 312 Zachary Rivers M 18 Victor NY 25:10

15 425 Thomas Porter M 18 Fredericksburg VA 25:24

16 424 Allen Pittman M 18 Los Alamos NM 25:28

17 114 Jeffery Arnier M 17 Arlington TX 25:30

18 502 Elliot Krause M 18 Appleton WI 25:31

19 472 Jim Walmsley M 19 Scottsdale AZ 25:36

20 110 Justin Heck M 18 New York NY 25:37

21 501 Rob Webster M 18 Seattle WA 25:40

22 387 Matthew Kane M 18 Fairfield CT 25:41

23 437 Kyle Satterwhite M 18 Charlottesville VA 25:41

24 494 Kevin Williams M 18 Norman OK 25:41

25 304 Kevin Havel M 19 Arlington Hts IL 25:46

26 395 Joseph Lorusso M 18 Oak Hill VA 25:47

27 491 Martin Medina M 18 Grand Junction CO 25:49

28 375 David Hausherr M 18 Townsend MA 25:53

29 374 Everett Hackett M 18 West Hartford CT 25:54

30 417 Jacob Parisien M 19 Palmer AK 25:57

31 107 Miles Becker M 18 Pittsburgh PA 26:00

32 310 Forrest Misenti M 18 Haddam CT 26:04

33 90 Alex McGrath M 18 Francestown NH 26:08

34 404 Julian Meyer M 17 Peninsula OH 26:09

35 460 Bryan Tibaduiza M 18 Reno NV 26:10

36 455 Max Straneva M 16 Binghamton NY 26:15

37 445 Timothy Smith M 18 Roanoke VA 26:26

38 493 Joseph Thompson M 18 Columbia MD 26:32

39 117 Stephen Curry M 17 Argyle TX 26:34

40 108 Gary Brownell M 18 New York NY 26:38

41 74 Taylor Gilland M 17 Chapel Hill NC 26:40

42 354 Ben Dejarnette M 17 Mechanicsville VA 26:43

43 124 Austin Roth M 18 Dallas TX 26:50

44 364 Philip Galebach M 17 Medford MA 26:52

45 109 Kyle Cooke M 18 New York NY 26:55

46 336 Matt Boughton M 18 Tempe AZ 26:56

47 229 Bronson Venable M 18 Wyoming RI 26:58

48 468 Brandon Velasquez M 18 Minot ND 27:01

49 457 Zachary Sullivan M 18 Pasadena MD 27:13

50 576 Dillon Shije M 17 Santa Fe NM 27:22

51 580 Jake McKenzie M 18 Philadelphia PA 27:28

52 125 Jim Stitt M 18 Mansfield TX 27:31

53 329 Talbot Armstrong M 18 Marshall VA 27:33

54 498 Greg Drosky M 18 Seattle WA 27:33

55 571 Donovan Jim M 19 Santa Fe NM 27:50

56 568 Christian Brownotter M 17 Santa Fe NM 27:51

57 120 Neal Ellis M 17 Midlothian TX 28:12

58 461 Ryan Topita M 17 Pasadena MD 28:12

59 221 Eric Schuler M 15 Laurel MD 28:16

60 118 Micah Dettmer M 17 Dallas TX 28:32

61 574 Vernard Martinez M 17 Santa Fe NM 29:09

62 397 Ian MacFawn M 15 Lavale MD 29:19

63 577 Thomas Zunie M 19 Santa Fe NM 29:35

64 441 Drew Shannon M 16 Chapel Hill NC 30:30

65 85 Spencer Ridenour M 18 Riverside CA 30:42

66 341 Wendall Brown M 15 District Heights M 31:58

67 422 Ryan Pfarr M 14 Elkton MD 32:57

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Noo, Grabill barely missed it...

and McLaughlin is going to be GOOD next year. Real good.

Her form is weak as hell...and she has absolutely no kick...on the contrary, when she gets to the last 400m she seems to slow down if anything.

Take it easy kid. Fernandez ran fantastic. It's mid winter and a lot of people are using a lot of different training philosophies. Some are out to prove something ASAP (Fernandez), some are training through (Likely Derrick) and some have coaches with a very long term approach and a knack for peaking at the right time (Puskedra). People are sick all over the country right now so who knows how they are feeling (Fernandez included).

I'm not saying that Fernandez can't finish on top at worlds, but rather have some perspective about an early Feb. cross country race. I wish them all the best and hope they are all capable of top 20 or better races.

My guess is that Vin gave Luke a healthy break, at least in terms of speed work. He's likely doing more base training again and will redshirt indoors and outdoors. Derrek may just do the 5K at NCAA's as another fitness builder for worlds. Fernandez and his coach have to be careful not to let ambition get the best of them. I'm talking more about injury than peaking. Fernandez could peak early and still run stellar in the end, but if he gets injured it's useless.

Next year NCAA cross will be interesting. Chelenga, Fernandez, Luke & Derrik. Will Fernandez surpass Chelenga? Will he beat him this outdoor season?

1 452 Neely Spence 18 Shippensburg PA unattached 20:43

2 338 Ashley Brasovan 18 Wellington FL unattached 20:57

3 298 Alexandra Dunne 17 San Clemente CA South Coast XC Elite 21:05

4 401 Allie McLaughlin 18 Colorado Springs C unattached 21:10

5 467 Sara Vaughn 18 Tulsa OK unattached 21:32

6 259 Emily Pritt 18 North Canton OH North Carolina State University 21:44

7 299 Molly Grabill 16 Poway CA South Coast XC Elite 21:46

8 572 Rolonda Jumbo 15 Santa Fe NM Wings of America 21:48

wow who are Molly Grabill and Rolonda Jumbo?

Big boys should be off in the 12K.