"Maybe UA will start to sponsor runners "
Josh Cox had an UA logo and Newton logo on his singlet when he ran in Phoenix, setting the 50k record.
"Maybe UA will start to sponsor runners "
Josh Cox had an UA logo and Newton logo on his singlet when he ran in Phoenix, setting the 50k record.
knowledge is power wrote:
[quote]mayor mccheese wrote:
Personally I think UA is going to shit the bed. Their main clientele will be fat football coaches.
That's a bigger market than runners.
mayor mccheese wrote:
Their line is competitively priced with current offerings. And just because you wear flats doesn't mean all competitive runners do. In fact, I would bet the majority (probably close to 95%) wear traditional trainers. Which UA makes.
I understand wanting to stick with a known brand. But if all you've eaten is hamburger, you'll never know how good steak tastes until you try it.
What the hell are you going on about? My comments have only been in the context of a tangent initiated by "Wonder" above. UA shoes are MSR priced $5-$15 above their counterparts offered by Mizuno, Brooks, Asics, Saucony, etc. All competitive runners race in flats, as a rule. You must be some UA tool to insist that UA shoes must be 'steak.' That's a flat-out dumb analogy. If I run well in shoes that I know and already have a reputation of working well, what's to fix? Then again, I don't buy my running shoes from big box stores like Dick's or Sports Authority. I hope they make a ton of money from the fitness jogger market, it's ripe for the picking.
From what i have heard is that under armor stole some of the top designers from mizuno so the shoe might actually be descent.
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From what i have heard is that under armor stole some of the top designers from mizuno so the shoe might actually be descent.
So they will good for descending the hills in Boston?
The Under Armor CEO used to be with Fila. Fila made the worst running shoes in the history of the planet. Did anyone even notice that Fila no longer makes running shoes? No? That's because you didn't buy them when they did.
If UA has the same guy in charge, they will sink themselves.
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What the hell are you going on about? My comments have only been in the context of a tangent initiated by "Wonder" above. UA shoes are MSR priced $5-$15 above their counterparts offered by Mizuno, Brooks, Asics, Saucony, etc. All competitive runners race in flats, as a rule. You must be some UA tool to insist that UA shoes must be 'steak.' That's a flat-out dumb analogy. If I run well in shoes that I know and already have a reputation of working well, what's to fix? Then again, I don't buy my running shoes from big box stores like Dick's or Sports Authority. I hope they make a ton of money from the fitness jogger market, it's ripe for the picking.
The prices are actually LESS than the other companies.
The UA basic stability shoe is $95. The 2140, Inspire, Structure are all $100. The Adrenaline is $105. The PG Guide 2 is $95.
The high end neutral shoe is $110. All of the others right now are $120-135.
Also, has any other company that has gone straight into running shoes made racing flats and spikes their first year? Holy hell, give them SOME time to develop. The already have 2 trail shoes, which is more than Mizuno has had over the past few years. I'm guessing they would sell more trial shoes than spikes.
I've tried many of the shoes on, and they definitely aren't perfect. However, for their first run of things, they are really good. They'll definitely sell, maybe even to some "real" runners.
die hard wrote:
The Under Armor CEO used to be with Fila. Fila made the worst running shoes in the history of the planet. Did anyone even notice that Fila no longer makes running shoes? No? That's because you didn't buy them when they did.
If UA has the same guy in charge, they will sink themselves.
Kevin Plank started what became Under Armor while he was in college. He never worked for Fila.
Most specialty running stores wont carry a clothing line without a shoe line. UA is probably betting that the way to get their clothes into running stores is by offering them shoes.
I work in a running store and a day does not go by without someone asking for UA clothes.
I never mentioned spikes, goofy. Anyone who pays $100 for the 2140 is a fool. I could get the Supernova Classic for $85 or less.
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I never mentioned spikes, goofy. Anyone who pays $100 for the 2140 is a fool. I could get the Supernova Classic for $85 or less.
Wow, that's great that you can get the Supernova Classic for $85 as that is the MSRP.
If somebody can get the 2140 at 10% at a running store, they will be able to get the Under Armour shoes at 10%.
If you are going to compare the MSRP from one shoe, make sure you compare it to the MSRP for another.
Mizuno Inspire 5 is $80 with free shipping from Holabird or from Running Warehouse; Asics 2140 is $90 with free shipping from Running Warehouse; Brooks Adrenaline 9 is $89 with free shipping from Running Warehouse, same with Holabird. To get similar prices from RRS on UA shoes you'd have to pay to join that ripoff VIP club. Nobody is going to go to Sports Authority or RRS and pay a lot more for a possibly equivalent (but who knows how good the design, workmanship, materials, and quality control really are yet?) shoe unless they are clueless fitness joggers. Just not worth the hassle. The smart folks will sit back and let others be the guinea pigs for this product, hopefully they'll work out for anyone willing to take a chance and overpay.
Also, the spikes/flats thing wasn't directed at you, it was directed to others who though they should make them immediately.
You should look on Holabird and you'd understand immediately that you don't have a clue here. Holabird significantly discounts every manufacturer except UA. That's not by accident. A lot of running stores don't even carry UA, it's more of a big box store brand.
That's "Mr. Plank" to you, boy. Now get back to protecting the house.
Also, the point with the Supernova Classic is that it is very similar to the UA Illusion, which costs significantly more. As someone else pointed out, you're not seeing UA shoes discounted much from MSRP unless you join some buyers club. Do you really think Dick's offers 10% off running shoes?
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You should look on Holabird and you'd understand immediately that you don't have a clue here. Holabird significantly discounts every manufacturer except UA. That's not by accident. A lot of running stores don't even carry UA, it's more of a big box store brand.
Actually, it is because UA has a very strict MAP pricing.
Also, the Supernova Classic is a 10 year old shoe. A damn good one at that. I don't see how you can compare the price of that versus a brand new style by a much newer company.
Because it would be equally useful to the same type of runner who would find use in the UA Illusion. As also pointed out, you can get similar new model styles from Mizuno or Asics or Brooks for about the same price ($80-90). This is coming from the perspective of a consumer, the underlying point is (and has been) that you'll basically have to pay the same or more than what you would for similar styles of shoe from companies with established records of quality in running shoes to get product from a company with none. The fact that Brewer is on the design team at UA helps, though people seem to have hated his Fila designs as much as they have loved his previous stuff from Mizuno. I just don't see the sense in anyone who is happy with what they use from Brooks, Asics, Saucony, or Mizuno paying more for their shoes just to try UA. Of course UA should benefit tremendously from those who do want to be the ones who get the 'next big thing' first and are willing to pay a premium to do so. UA is smart to use big box stores to develop a customer base in the running shoe market, no start-up would find great success in catering only or chiefly to the 'serious runner' running specialty segment.
Stop the BS, any newcomer is welcome. Competition drives innovation...Having said that, UA shoes seem to mimic Mizuno in their stiffness and are heavy...Try them but don't expect any breakthroughs in design and functionality...
it\'s very rare that a brand new shoe company hits the mark with a shoe on it\'s first go-round. That being said, more companies fighting to be in the running shoe industry is big for our sport. it\'s better than shoe companies leaving the market!
there is a website -->
http://www.runningcompanyshoes.com/
that sells current shoes at a discount, plus free shipping. take a look, they sell mizuno, asics, brooks and saucony.
they also have older models (guide, 2130, kayno 14, rider 11, etc) which are sold at a much cheaper price.