D3 PREDICTION THREAD

Last year, there was a 2.3 second conversion given to banked tracks for the 5k (14:32.30-14:34.60). this year there is a 3.6 second conversion (14:31.00-14:34.60)!! This is beyond ridiculous---it's the same track as it was last year. How is a banked track worth more time now than it was last year? I mean, somebody could have have missed nationals because of that change in conversion. Again, not saying it doesn't make a difference, just that they make up an arbitrary conversion factor that really makes no sense at all. What some people tend to overlook is that the indoor mentally on the east coast is much different than the midwest. They don't treat it as just a buildup to outdoor (sometimes they will say they do but they don't). When you are racing balls out on the fastest tracks and against the best competition every weekend from mid-january through March, that's not building up for outdoor. And that is what every school in New England does all winter. So it shouldn't be surprising that most of their best times are run in February, nor should it be surprising that they don't usually hold up in an actual race like nationals where there is more tactically going on than just time-trialing.

I don't know what the conversion should be, but as many others have said, the competition is often MUCH better on a banked track. Our team gets much more psyched to run at Valentine, Terrier, or New Englands (all at BU) than they do to run a random meet at Wesleyan, USM, or Tufts. The competition level is usually so much higher, so a lot of people rise to the occasion. You have to take all the variables into account.

Gratuitous buuuump.

I think the 5k has a great shot at being a quick race, as there are enough guys close to the leaders that they leaders will probably have to push the pace to keep big kickers out of the equation.

so is the field in the 800 usually that close, I mean it's barely one second between first and eleventh. I expect a good race (1:50mid), even without someone like evensen this year

Don't be a bunch of wimps and sac up, it is Nationals! I would love to see Leer's heat run 4:09-11 in the first round. How many times have you seen guys not make the final because they were losers and didn't take the race out, don't be that kid saying "If I would have run my own race I would have made it to the finals" Good luck and rip it! your ready. Be ready for a fast 1st round leer boy, plus he has not done much in the last 6 weeks, great he blasted a hard last qtr in some race but he peaked awhile back. Go Flint!

heheh. guess it took a 408 anchor on that dmr. ohhhh so sneaky billy.

those dmr's were ridiculous! Kaul and taddy looked unreal. I can't believe she tripled. Definitely a badass.

why is abdallah the only one not showing is All-America plaque?? the box is closed and it is at his side...it's not like he wasn't ready for the pic

Maybe it's because he finally realized that he can't win the big one, so he decided to sulk in self pitty. He wasn't even the top NYU guy.

Why dont you get off Hanys balls. He is a greater runner than you will ever dream of. Quit giving giving him shit on some internet running message board and suck his 3X AA a$$

Vin wrote:

Maybe it's because he finally realized that he can't win the big one, so he decided to sulk in self pitty. He wasn't even the top NYU guy.

Hey, what happened to the williams kids? Davitian DNFs, Gray/Grey tanks his prelim? What happened?

the 800 guy fell in his heat and i heard that the miler was sick and started to lose his lunch

hany has run some good times, but if you predict victory then you better win! he may not have in track but I think that a majority of people have read his article about winning something. he is an AA, everyone is showing their trophies and he's crying. (yes he was being a baby)If you don't want people to think negativly of you then don't draw negative attention to yourself.

Well, no one, at least to my knowledge rips a guy like Willy Kaul (also multiple time AA). Maybe people hating on Hany has something to do w/ him saying this: "God help all the other runners if I can get in a decent amount of mileage this coming summer." or "If I stay healthy I will win nationals. If my teammates stay healthy, we will win nationals. No doubt." Willy on the other hand said, "My Pop’s by far has been the biggest influence in my life. He has taught me a lot of what I know, not only by telling me but by his actions. He is the most humble person that I know, and that keeps me humble. " Just some food for though...

good post

Anyone else notice how poor Kaul's tactics were in the 5K? He got impatient in the pack and broke away with 9 laps to go. Built up a 40 meter lead in about a lap and a half. Then he got rolled up and spit out the back when everybody got it rolling in the last 800.

IMO he cost his team 2nd place in the meet. If he had waited he easily could have kicked to 4th place or better. Poor decision on his part, or poor tactical advice from his coach.

the oshkosh guys always do that. Eamon Mckenna did that outdoors in the 5 and 10, getting 6th in both. John Leroy did it in the steeple (when he won it), and in the 5k later that day (don't remember the place, but he kinda tanked a bit). I think he just got excited after his national championship from the night before. I think if he would have made that same move at 1200, it would have been a different story.

Hey, where were all the MIAC guys? I thought that was the greatest conference in the world. There's a thread about 12,000 posts long that seems to be saying that.

They finished 4th (Chris Erichsen, SJU) in the 5k and 4th (Brian Sames, UST) in the 800 overall. 2 All-Americans, not too bad. And it could have been one more if one of the MIAC's best in the 5k, Brandon Gleason of Hamline, didn't get hit by an SUV running a stop sign and completely shatter his leg. It's a shame.