he will run the 3000m before the 10000m
he will run the 3000m before the 10000m
So we know Teg has ran about 2 seconds slower in teh 1500 then his 5k time equivelent wise. And he did this in a meet where he won by 2 seconds. That's hardly evidence to me that he's a much better 5k runner. For all we know he could drop a 335 or 334 in a better suited 1500 race to run fast. Point being he's no where near the slacker at 1500 compared to 5k that Zat painted him out to be.
He's 10 seconds behind the world record in a race he wasn't challenged in that is 3.3 times shorter then a distance he's 28 seconds behind the world record in from a race he had great competition in. It's not cut and dry.
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STOOOOP SAYYING HE RAN 13:05, i want to SLAP someone whenever they say it. HE RAN 13 o MOTHER F***ING FOUR!!!!
and to the guy that said hed be happy to see teg run mid-high 28s in a loaded race, your a retard. do you realize thats like 1:30-2:00 slower than his 5k pr. thats like an 18min 5ker running a 40 min 10k. easy as pie for teg. he could for sure run 27:45 at least, i think more in the 27:30 range.
Pytheas wrote:
The schedule for the Van Damme Memorial in Brussels doesn't show a 10K. Nor do those for Zurich, Monaco, or Berlin.
Does anyone know where there will be a fast 10K on the track in Europe in August or September?
there WILL be a 10K in brussels and meb WILL be running it.
asdlfkjlasdkjfsoadifoasidfj wrote:
STOOOOP SAYYING HE RAN 13:05, i want to SLAP someone whenever they say it. HE RAN 13 o MOTHER F***ING FOUR!!!!
Do you have some issues? He ran 13:04.90. Slap me.
yeh i was getting annoyed with peeps sayin 13:05 too
teg is on the start list for the monaco 3k on august 20th, the brussels 10k is on august 25th, the world cup is on september 16-17, if he ran the 10k that would give him 22-23 days before he represents the usa at the world cup which will probably be a slow tactical race. i would think he could easily recover in time for that, of course it is his and his coach and the meet directors choice.
Yea, maybe he would recover as quickly as Webb has. Give it up, go read what they said the plan for the year and future years is (do 10,000s when they have added more miles, not over-race and not over train).
i think teg should do what he wants, i doubt webb's problems this year were caused by running hard for 10k, there were probably factors that caused his iron deficiency that it would not have mattered if he had decided to not run that race, some of what the good runners do in practice is harder than most of their races.
After not running a decent 10k since fall of 05, Teg would probably "take a hit" from a 27:00+ 10k and it would more than likely have a negative effect on the World Cup race. Now, if that is the case, maybe it is worth it, if he runs a fast 10k and gets the AR!!! I have to believe that he can run with Abdi and the other top Americans who are in that race and maybe run away from them!!!! Interesting ponderings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If he "might " do it now, why does he have to worry about waiting until is trains specificially for a 10,000 and goes for the record then?
I deliberately titled this thread "Reasons why Teg should run a 10,000 soon". Not "Teg MUST run...," not "Teg SHOULD run...". There are some compelling reasons for him to run a 10 ASAP. One could make an equally compelling list of reasons why he shouldn't.
But as some of the more competent, non-tool posters on this thread have pointed out, there are also some compelling reasons to stay the course at 5,000 this year. I was well aware of those reasons when I started this thread and I was hoping (once we stripped away the tools and those that can't see past the use of equivalents) that there could be a reasonably well thought out discussion about it. That sorta happened.
All the second-guessers, all the tools, all the trolls, can prattle forever but guys like Teg have to make real decisions in their careers that have real consequences. Running a fast 10 to get a Q a year early ended up putting Ritz on the Olympic team in '04. That was smart. There are reasons guys plan ahead and get things like Qs out of the way early.
But it is equally wise for Teg to go into Beijing this year prepped and ready and get some solid experience in a tactical, non-rabbited championship race. Running a 10 would be a deviation from that plan. Getting a consistent year of training and racing at 5,000 before moving makes a lot of sense for a guy just starting his international career that fought injuries through college. While I reject as completely absurd the notion that a 10,000 would "burn him out" or "injure" him, there are other legitimate reasons not to do it this year.
Either way, its an interesting decision and the kind of thing he has to think about now.
Zat0pek wrote:
I deliberately titled this thread "Reasons why Teg should run a 10,000 soon". Not "Teg MUST run...," not "Teg SHOULD run...". There are some compelling reasons for him to run a 10 ASAP. One could make an equally compelling list of reasons why he shouldn't.
But as some of the more competent, non-tool posters on this thread have pointed out, there are also some compelling reasons to stay the course at 5,000 this year. I was well aware of those reasons when I started this thread and I was hoping (once we stripped away the tools and those that can't see past the use of equivalents) that there could be a reasonably well thought out discussion about it. That sorta happened.
All the second-guessers, all the tools, all the trolls, can prattle forever but guys like Teg have to make real decisions in their careers that have real consequences. Running a fast 10 to get a Q a year early ended up putting Ritz on the Olympic team in '04. That was smart. There are reasons guys plan ahead and get things like Qs out of the way early.
But it is equally wise for Teg to go into Beijing this year prepped and ready and get some solid experience in a tactical, non-rabbited championship race. Running a 10 would be a deviation from that plan. Getting a consistent year of training and racing at 5,000 before moving makes a lot of sense for a guy just starting his international career that fought injuries through college. While I reject as completely absurd the notion that a 10,000 would "burn him out" or "injure" him, there are other legitimate reasons not to do it this year.
Either way, its an interesting decision and the kind of thing he has to think about now.
Well done.
Zat0pek wrote:
I deliberately titled this thread "Reasons why Teg should run a 10,000 soon". Not "Teg MUST run...," not "Teg SHOULD run...". There are some compelling reasons for him to run a 10 ASAP. One could make an equally compelling list of reasons why he shouldn't.
But as some of the more competent, non-tool posters on this thread have pointed out, there are also some compelling reasons to stay the course at 5,000 this year. I was well aware of those reasons when I started this thread and I was hoping (once we stripped away the tools and those that can't see past the use of equivalents) that there could be a reasonably well thought out discussion about it. That sorta happened.
All the second-guessers, all the tools, all the trolls, can prattle forever but guys like Teg have to make real decisions in their careers that have real consequences. Running a fast 10 to get a Q a year early ended up putting Ritz on the Olympic team in '04. That was smart. There are reasons guys plan ahead and get things like Qs out of the way early.
But it is equally wise for Teg to go into Beijing this year prepped and ready and get some solid experience in a tactical, non-rabbited championship race. Running a 10 would be a deviation from that plan. Getting a consistent year of training and racing at 5,000 before moving makes a lot of sense for a guy just starting his international career that fought injuries through college. While I reject as completely absurd the notion that a 10,000 would "burn him out" or "injure" him, there are other legitimate reasons not to do it this year.
Either way, its an interesting decision and the kind of thing he has to think about now.
Yeah that was hott.
Zat0pek wrote:
I deliberately titled this thread "Reasons why Teg should run a 10,000 soon". Not "Teg MUST run...," not "Teg SHOULD run...".
Actually, you titled the thread: "Reasons why Teg needs to run a 10,000 soon." The word "needs" is closer in meaning to "must" then it is to "should."
in the know. wrote:
there WILL be a 10K in brussels and meb WILL be running it.
Well, it looks like there will be a 10K in Zurich, despite what the schedule says. Bekele is going for a new world record. I would be surprised if Brussels has a 10K only a week after the Zurich race.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=trackandfield&id=2544516http://sport.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-6003755,00.htmlZat, if Prefontaine had listened to half the morons who posted on Lets Run he would have never run a 10K. Of course Tegenkamp should take a shot at a 10K. What a bunch of chicken littles.
Jayhawk wrote:Zat, if Prefontaine had listened to half the morons who posted on Lets Run he would have never run a 10K.
And, of course his 10,000 AR stayed in the all-time U.S. top ten far, far longer than any of his other marks and was easily his best mark.
But as I said a few posts back, there are some good reasons not to do it this year as well.
A friend of a friend that has inside info in Madison, says that they talk up there is about the same subject and he knows for a fact that they are considering it, but probably a "no-go" this year because of other plans, etc.