Find a Running Calc wrote:
There are many running calculators out on the interent. Find one, and try it. A person can see where they truly rank as a runner by using a calculator. As a runner, comparing yourself against other runners in a race (most often most are fun runs/fun runners/joggers) can be quite deceiving.
What? This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Running calculators show equivalent performances, they don't show you where you rank as a runner. WTF?
I think some posters run a certain time on the track and probably don't realize that if you run on the roads, especially on a hilly course your time is going to be much slower.
Its entirely conceivable that 16:20 is as good as a 15:50 or better on the track.
Anyway, who cares what times sucks or doesn't suck. Show up to race and do your best.
You sir are the DUMBASSs. Took me 10 sec to find this calc. There are many more out there. Let me know if you need lessons on how to use to calculator and how to read the results. You moron.
dumbass alert wrote:
Find a Running Calc wrote:There are many running calculators out on the interent. Find one, and try it. A person can see where they truly rank as a runner by using a calculator. As a runner, comparing yourself against other runners in a race (most often most are fun runs/fun runners/joggers) can be quite deceiving.
What? This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Running calculators show equivalent performances, they don't show you where you rank as a runner. WTF?
17:20s on 100mpw?
Must be the most untalented runner ever.
This will be an all time Letsrun story
I'm running 150/mpw and just ran 18:12. If I up to 200/mpw will I get down to 16:20? I too want to be elite.
Find a Running Calc wrote:
You sir are the DUMBASSs. Took me 10 sec to find this calc. There are many more out there. Let me know if you need lessons on how to use to calculator and how to read the results. You moron.
That's an aged-graded calculator. You didn't say that. You said "running calculator". Below are examples of running calculators, which, as I said before, give equivalent performances. Try to be more clear next time, assface.
http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/Running%20University/Article%201/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htmhttp://run-down.com/statistics/calc.phphttp://merv.stanford.edu/runcalcgood for you dipshit... there are runners who could say 15:52 is ho humcongratulations to the guy for setting a huge pr
16:20 - So What! Big Deal! wrote:
I ran 15:52 recently off 50 miles a week. And, I didn't brag about it. Running 16:20 off 100 is pretty damn HoHum! Before you brag you better get into the sub-15 range at least. Recently there a master running ran a 14:45, so you better get faster before you talk smack.
breakthrough wrote:I took more than a minute off of my 17:20 PR and still feel as though I am progressing. 100mpw is just a number. I try to get a 20+ miler in each weekend, a 17 miler mid week, and never go out the door to run less than 10. I did start some track work but stick to mile repeats (6x1mile somewhere between 10 and 5K race pace) so even when I am at the track I wind up doing ten or more counting warmup, one-lap rests, and cool down. All total'd a typical week is 95-100 miles and I do not feel like I am spending a huge amount more time then when I was running 60-70 mpw. No issues what so ever with injuries.
interesting... that calculator says I'm at 89.5%, and that 90% is world class... how is that possible? a 21 year old who runs a 14:30 is nearly world class? I wouldn't even qualify fir USnationals, or even NCAA D1 nationals.. how the heck am I at the top of "national class" and almost "world class"?
Roscoe wrote:
There are no elite runners on this board. Just a bunch of wannabes who can only talk about how fast they would like to be.
That is the beauty of an anonymous message board. I am an elite on-line, where I can run a sub 4 minute mile while sitting here....in fact I was running a sub four while typing this.
lmao...
smoking wrote:
interesting... that calculator says I'm at 89.5%, and that 90% is world class... how is that possible? a 21 year old who runs a 14:30 is nearly world class? I wouldn't even qualify fir USnationals, or even NCAA D1 nationals.. how the heck am I at the top of "national class" and almost "world class"?
Now perhaps you will understand statistics better (not being sarcastic, just trying to help). You now understand just how rarefied, compared to the total population of runners, your time is. A 16:00 5K is way out on the upper tail of the bell curve.
In the grand scheme of things, including all runners everywhere, the difference between "local" class, "national" class, and world class is hard to measure compared to the average.
Or to put it another way: there are what, 10's of thousands of collegiate runners? And NCAA nationals gets about 20 for the 10K finals? That percentage is so low, just on a collegiate level, that a decrease of even 0.5% adds a LOT of runners.
Clearly Breakthrough is paranoid schizo. Way to terrify some poor guy who just wanted to run his race.
Letsrun.com should sponsor a race and then have everyone show up and register using their sign on name.
Imagine having that many sub15 5ks in one place.
that is hilarious!
THe only problem is if the word gets out about the race the real elites will show up to heckle us! (or worse)
Where are the links to the post from "a while ago" that started it all and the subsequent posts "over the past year" in which "this elitist out’ed himself". That would make this story believable and possibly entertaining as well.
jizzmo wrote:
Letsrun.com should sponsor a race and then have everyone show up and register using their sign on name.
Suddenly a 16:20 5K would look pretty good!
Can't be 'ef'ed' reading the entire thread but heres my two cents: Elitists and Know-it-all amateurs both piss me off. Original poster, congrats but calm down.
Im a semi-decent runner, 14.10 5ker. I coach myself. When someone better than me tells me I am doing something 'wrong' I get a little fired up, I get more pissed off when they try and give me advice on what I should be doing instead. I mean what works for them may not work for me and as I am young I am still training tentatively, slowely trying new things.
Yet the only thing more annoying than this is when a 17.30 5ker comes up to me to exhange secrets and discloses some increadible running remedy to me like it will change my running world.
I am always open to knew ideas but dislike it greatly when I am scorned by others for A) not thinking thier ideas would work for me, or B) not following the status quo.
You may be on to something here
mandingo wrote:
Sounds like you must have got a big PB which should be the main thing. The guy maybe did you a favour by getting you so pumped you smoked him.
The funniest thing is that guys who actually really are fast never cut down other runners and most are very down to earth. Meb Keflezighi stopped to sit down beside me on the way to his press conference at Boston to ask how some of my friends ran who he had met.
After you crossed the finish line you good have pointed out to the guy you didn't appreciate his comments and that helped you beat him.
you didnt give each other a bare chested hug did you ;-)
Just imagine the awards presentation, and post race party.