How do I overcome plantar fasciitis if I want to join the military?

track chick wrote:

Hello,

You've completely misjudged and misinterpreted my post. I had to change it to be completely neutral otherwise I was concerned it would be deleted again, as with the previous one.

If you read what I wrote, carefully, you'll clearly see I haven't at any point advocated for a career in the military. At all. I've been careful to write in neutral language - that is it. I haven't put my personal feelings in at any point. I have never been employed by the military but have had a very bad experience relating to that area and that's all I want to say about that.

The experience in the military DOES depend on the role - what I stated - as there's a huge difference between being on the ground in Afghanistan or sitting in a room in the UK. Or cooking food versus having to take people's lives. People are going to have very different experiences and that's just a fact. I don't see how anyone can reasonably say otherwise. If he's going into it, that's going to significantly affect the experience that he has and I can't see how anyone can deny that.

I wrote:

"Re the military, they are very stringent on medical requirements, so I'd check that out first to see if it disqualifies you, along with other stuff like MH. For example someone with eczema may not be able to get in, etc. Be careful when you choose what role you want as obviously there's a wide range of roles and some never see combat and some do, and go into it with your eyes open."

And you wrote:

"Great advice, not."

All of that is correct. They ARE stringent on medical requirements. He can't get in. Some roles see combat and some don't. And you need to go into it with your eyes open. Some people don't. Especially 16 year olds. If they offer you something you don't want you can say no. But obviously if he chooses to be an infantry soldier and pursues it, he will have a different experience than choosing to be a chef and pursuing that. You DO need to be careful. My ex cannot sleep. War is evil. Which part of that is incorrect?

I feel like you've jumped to some massive assumptions.

track chick wrote:

Hello,

You've completely misjudged and misinterpreted my post. I had to change it to be completely neutral otherwise I was concerned it would be deleted again, as with the previous one.

If you read what I wrote, carefully, you'll clearly see I haven't at any point advocated for a career in the military. At all. I've been careful to write in neutral language - that is it. I haven't put my personal feelings in at any point. I have never been employed by the military but have had a very bad experience relating to that area and that's all I want to say about that.

The experience in the military DOES depend on the role - what I stated - as there's a huge difference between being on the ground in Afghanistan or sitting in a room in the UK. Or cooking food versus having to take people's lives. People are going to have very different experiences and that's just a fact. I don't see how anyone can reasonably say otherwise. If he's going into it, that's going to significantly affect the experience that he has and I can't see how anyone can deny that.

I wrote:

"Re the military, they are very stringent on medical requirements, so I'd check that out first to see if it disqualifies you, along with other stuff like MH. For example someone with eczema may not be able to get in, etc. Be careful when you choose what role you want as obviously there's a wide range of roles and some never see combat and some do, and go into it with your eyes open."

And you wrote:

"Great advice, not."

All of that is correct. They ARE stringent on medical requirements. He can't get in. Some roles see combat and some don't. And you need to go into it with your eyes open. Some people don't. Especially 16 year olds. If they offer you something you don't want you can say no. But obviously if he chooses to be an infantry soldier and pursues it, he will have a different experience than choosing to be a chef and pursuing that. You DO need to be careful. My ex cannot sleep. War is evil. Which part of that is incorrect?

I feel like you've jumped to some massive assumptions.

actually helpful wrote:

track chick wrote:

Hello,

You've completely misjudged and misinterpreted my post. I had to change it to be completely neutral otherwise I was concerned it would be deleted again, as with the previous one.

If you read what I wrote, carefully, you'll clearly see I haven't at any point advocated for a career in the military. At all. I've been careful to write in neutral language - that is it. I haven't put my personal feelings in at any point. I have never been employed by the military but have had a very bad experience relating to that area and that's all I want to say about that.

The experience in the military DOES depend on the role - what I stated - as there's a huge difference between being on the ground in Afghanistan or sitting in a room in the UK. Or cooking food versus having to take people's lives. People are going to have very different experiences and that's just a fact. I don't see how anyone can reasonably say otherwise. If he's going into it, that's going to significantly affect the experience that he has and I can't see how anyone can deny that.

I wrote:

"Re the military, they are very stringent on medical requirements, so I'd check that out first to see if it disqualifies you, along with other stuff like MH. For example someone with eczema may not be able to get in, etc. Be careful when you choose what role you want as obviously there's a wide range of roles and some never see combat and some do, and go into it with your eyes open."

And you wrote:

"Great advice, not."

All of that is correct. They ARE stringent on medical requirements. He can't get in. Some roles see combat and some don't. And you need to go into it with your eyes open. Some people don't. Especially 16 year olds. If they offer you something you don't want you can say no. But obviously if he chooses to be an infantry soldier and pursues it, he will have a different experience than choosing to be a chef and pursuing that. You DO need to be careful. My ex cannot sleep. War is evil. Which part of that is incorrect?

I feel like you've jumped to some massive assumptions.

Regarding 'choosing a role': The poster 'don't wanna be an airborne ranger' wrote that the US military might not honor a recruit's choice and just decide to send the recruit to do and be whatever the f they want. Recruiters telling recruits what they want to hear, to get them to sign.

I Dont Want to Be an Airborne Ranger wrote:

track chick wrote:

Hello,

You've completely misjudged and misinterpreted my post. I had to change it to be completely neutral otherwise I was concerned it would be deleted again, as with the previous one.

If you read what I wrote, carefully, you'll clearly see I haven't at any point advocated for a career in the military. At all. I've been careful to write in neutral language - that is it. I haven't put my personal feelings in at any point. I have never been employed by the military but have had a very bad experience relating to that area and that's all I want to say about that.

The experience in the military DOES depend on the role - what I stated - as there's a huge difference between being on the ground in Afghanistan or sitting in a room in the UK. Or cooking food versus having to take people's lives. People are going to have very different experiences and that's just a fact. I don't see how anyone can reasonably say otherwise. If he's going into it, that's going to significantly affect the experience that he has and I can't see how anyone can deny that.

I wrote:

"Re the military, they are very stringent on medical requirements, so I'd check that out first to see if it disqualifies you, along with other stuff like MH. For example someone with eczema may not be able to get in, etc. Be careful when you choose what role you want as obviously there's a wide range of roles and some never see combat and some do, and go into it with your eyes open."

And you wrote:

"Great advice, not."

All of that is correct. They ARE stringent on medical requirements. He can't get in. Some roles see combat and some don't. And you need to go into it with your eyes open. Some people don't. Especially 16 year olds. If they offer you something you don't want you can say no. But obviously if he chooses to be an infantry soldier and pursues it, he will have a different experience than choosing to be a chef and pursuing that. You DO need to be careful. My ex cannot sleep. War is evil. Which part of that is incorrect?

I feel like you've jumped to some massive assumptions.

I feel like you are backtracking. If you were neutral why give this poor dude any notion of joining? Why can’t you just come out and say that the military sucks, especially since you have suggested it’s harmed you personally? Instead you are continuing to give him bad advice with the multiple jobs line. A cook indeed is a more safe job than infantry. But what about the fact that the enlistee who becomes a cook is still responsible for what his fellow soldiers do? The cook is tacitly implying by supporting combative soldiers that he is fine with whatever atrocities they commit. So he and everyone who joins is responsible for the harm the military does, regardless of what their actual job is.

My issue is you seem to be overly neutral despite clearly hating the military for how they treated your ex. So take a categorical ethical stance and say that those b@#$ta$#s are evil shills for corporate power and government tyranny, and that anyone who joins is also responsible. Don’t dance around the issue by confusing this young man with the cliche “it depends on what you job you do” line. I’m trying to tell him from my experience as a veteran that it is an ethical choice of not choosing to cooperate with evil. You are avoiding the ethical dilemma and using the clichéd career choice line.

track chick wrote:

I Dont Want to Be an Airborne Ranger wrote:

I feel like you are backtracking. If you were neutral why give this poor dude any notion of joining? Why can’t you just come out and say that the military sucks, especially since you have suggested it’s harmed you personally? Instead you are continuing to give him bad advice with the multiple jobs line. A cook indeed is a more safe job than infantry. But what about the fact that the enlistee who becomes a cook is still responsible for what his fellow soldiers do? The cook is tacitly implying by supporting combative soldiers that he is fine with whatever atrocities they commit. So he and everyone who joins is responsible for the harm the military does, regardless of what their actual job is.

My issue is you seem to be overly neutral despite clearly hating the military for how they treated your ex. So take a categorical ethical stance and say that those b@#$ta$#s are evil shills for corporate power and government tyranny, and that anyone who joins is also responsible. Don’t dance around the issue by confusing this young man with the cliche “it depends on what you job you do” line. I’m trying to tell him from my experience as a veteran that it is an ethical choice of not choosing to cooperate with evil. You are avoiding the ethical dilemma and using the clichéd career choice line.

I'm not backtracking about anything. If you read what I said properly, you'll see why. He can't join. All I was saying was that IF someone is dead set on joining then considering what role they try to pursue is one of the more important things because of the variation. There's a massive difference between taking people's lives and cooking.

I don't want to put my personal views about the military online for personal reasons. The situation I referred to before had serious consequences for me.

My ethics and/or how I feel about it aren't defined by a post I make on a running message board.

You are the one who chose to join up. Not me. So please maybe try passing less judgement/criticism on my ethics when you've actually been a part of it. Maybe you didn't have many options or needed to care for a sick family member, I don't know. And I'm sorry that you experienced what you experienced. I truly am and I mean that in the most genuine way possible. Conflict is horrendous.That doesn't mean I have to vomit out personal information to justify what I say though.

You're criticising me for 'not taking an ethical stance' because I don't want to post my personal opinion in public yet you did it as a job. If it's as evil as you're saying I'm not sure you're in a place to pass judgement.

fisky wrote:

InjuredRunner887, on April 12 in a different thread, you wrote: "By the summer of 2021, the pain was still present, so I went to physical therapy. I was in physical therapy for several months, but the pain remained so I went to another doctor. I got a MRI that showed I had talonavicular arthritis in the right foot, so I was in a cast for around 6 weeks."

On April 12 in that thread, I wrote: "Everything so far has focused on PF. This is an entirely different injury, although I see how someone could mistake it for PF. Your podiatrist is guessing it's PF, but the MRI provides a better diagnosis."

PF and talonavicular arthritis (TA) are different injuries. The podiatrist is guessing it's PF, but MRIs are usually more definitive. The exercises you did for PF might not help TA and some of those PF exercises could make talonavicular arthritis worse!

What you should do now is:

1. Get another MRI to confirm whether your injury is PF or TA... or both.

2. Post back here with the results. We might be able to help. I've successfully treated an injury similar to TA. I'll post how I treated it for your consideration once you confirm whether or not it is the underlying problem.

track chick wrote:

Yes, that does happen. AFAIK in the US you're signing up to "work for the army" and nothing is guaranteed. But I suppose what I was referring to was if he went in there saying he wanted to do something like infantry soldier and getting it (and some of the dangerous combat roles you would have a good chance of getting), he will have a different experience to saying he wants to be a chef and getting it. That's all. That people often pursue something not realising the potential consequences. Or maybe they don't have many options. So eyes open meaning knowing exactly what you're signing up for. What it might involve. And not the best case scenario, the most realistic one. The effects it could have. What you might see. What might happen. That you could be choosing something very damaging. Etc. That the roles differ dramatically and will massively influence the experience that you have. My ex wanted to see action. The price is very high.