It’s that other deleted posts were full of unfounded accusations regarding a minor and yours seemed to be another. Maybe not, just a guess. The site rules are stricter for comments about minors.
Historical prospective. Just becasue he was my school year. Steve Cram May 4th age 16 world best for 1500m 3.47.7 breaking the previous record of 3.48 by I think David Glassborrow.
Cram's record sort of came out of nowhere. A good runner but had never won a national age group title. Previous best 1500 4.09. First track race of the season. So less than 50 years to take the 16 year old world best from 3.48 for 1500 to 3.48 for a mile.
The more telling statistic is that Ruthe’s time in the 3000m as a 15yr-old, 7:56, was 26 seconds faster than Jakob’s best at the same age, even though the latter was supposedly running big mileage from a young age.
Ruthe’s 3000m time as a 15yr-old was 55secs faster than Laros’ time at the same age.
Sam Ruthe appears to be on a different performance level than those other running ‘prodigies’.
Training is training, train like a top pro race like one and with this talent it is impressive. However, it will be interesting how these guys hold up in the long run whether they slow down due to injury, etc. I will say a common things with all these runners is they are very skinny (I know all distance runners are but more so) and I do wonder the bug injury will hit earlier like we have seen with Jakob.
Being 8 seconds faster than Jakob at age 16 is just inconceivable.
I appreciate improvement isn't linear but there is every reason to think he could run sub-3:30 this year. Would I bet on it? No. But I definitely wouldn't bet against it either.
you said it. there is a paradigm shift. all bets are off. jacob was quite enough of a game changer, and now we have laros, myers, ruthe, and who else?
personally i need to recalibrate, as the old formula of doping, progressions, training, etc. something has fundamentally changed, shoes, tracks bicarb, amino acids, traning the gambit, i do not have a handle on it, formerly i would be comfortable in commentary, based on the fundamentals from coaches of note, with minimal novelty from this side.
some of this was predicted by percy cerutty, and actually arch jelley, coach of john walker, though i can't speak for them, the way it is playing out, maybe not what they envisioned.
you can google arch jelley on his 101 year birthday about snell, advances, and equivalent times back in the day.
and maybe read about percy cerutti predictions from his books back in the day.
every evolving Gault, can supplement his learnings with the above. he's close to the premier journalist already, with few holes , being subtleties in elite training and certanily insider ped know how.
also really required reading is the books by gordon pirie, he was quite the guy, nuts somewhat, with come fundamentals, which are expressed, i think in today's shoes.
there you go
What is Ruthe doing that Ingebrigtsen wasn't at 16 to be 8 seconds faster?
Historical prospective. Just becasue he was my school year. Steve Cram May 4th age 16 world best for 1500m 3.47.7 breaking the previous record of 3.48 by I think David Glassborrow.
Cram's record sort of came out of nowhere. A good runner but had never won a national age group title. Previous best 1500 4.09. First track race of the season. So less than 50 years to take the 16 year old world best from 3.48 for 1500 to 3.48 for a mile.
Cram ran 3:47 to Ruthe's 3:31. Yet Ruthe is only running 40-60mpw. So how does that work?
Training is training, train like a top pro race like one and with this talent it is impressive. However, it will be interesting how these guys hold up in the long run whether they slow down due to injury, etc. I will say a common things with all these runners is they are very skinny (I know all distance runners are but more so) and I do wonder the bug injury will hit earlier like we have seen with Jakob.
Historical prospective. Just becasue he was my school year. Steve Cram May 4th age 16 world best for 1500m 3.47.7 breaking the previous record of 3.48 by I think David Glassborrow.
Cram's record sort of came out of nowhere. A good runner but had never won a national age group title. Previous best 1500 4.09. First track race of the season. So less than 50 years to take the 16 year old world best from 3.48 for 1500 to 3.48 for a mile.
1) Cram ran 3:47 to Ruthe's 3:31. 2) Yet Ruthe is only running 40-60mpw. So how does that work?
Cram is not Ruthe. Ruthe is running 40-60mpw? What's wrong with that?