"Heard Nelly's "Hot in Herre" in the radio. It's about women taking off all their clothes due to warm temperatures. Women will find any excuse to turn into complete SLUTS! Becoming strippers because a BLACK rapper gave them alcohol? Makes me sick! Typical immoral whorish female behavior thanks to feminism."
"Heard Nelly's "Hot in Herre" in the radio. It's about women taking off all their clothes due to warm temperatures. Women will find any excuse to turn into complete SLUTS! Becoming strippers because a BLACK rapper gave them alcohol? Makes me sick! Typical immoral whorish female behavior thanks to feminism."
There’s a ton of racists on this board. Your point about immorality is valid but you capitalized the word black. What does the color of the rapper’s skin matter? The song is degrading whether Nelly or Eminem raps it. Sheesh.
"Heard Nelly's "Hot in Herre" in the radio. It's about women taking off all their clothes due to warm temperatures. Women will find any excuse to turn into complete SLUTS! Becoming strippers because a BLACK rapper gave them alcohol? Makes me sick! Typical immoral whorish female behavior thanks to feminism."
There’s a ton of racists on this board. Your point about immorality is valid but you capitalized the word black. What does the color of the rapper’s skin matter? The song is degrading whether Nelly or Eminem raps it. Sheesh.
Look at the username I used. Observe the quotation marks I placed around the entire rant. I didn't make a valid point about anything. I made a deliberately stupid post to mock the OP and I made it abundantly obvious that I was being sarcastic. Try to keep up next time, buddy!
There’s a ton of racists on this board. Your point about immorality is valid but you capitalized the word black. What does the color of the rapper’s skin matter? The song is degrading whether Nelly or Eminem raps it. Sheesh.
Look at the username I used. Observe the quotation marks I placed around the entire rant. I didn't make a valid point about anything. I made a deliberately stupid post to mock the OP and I made it abundantly obvious that I was being sarcastic. Try to keep up next time, buddy!
I missed that it was sarcasm. I absolutely agree that OP should be mocked. I'm tryna keep up.
Why Avril Lavigne Is the Greatest Musician Ever (Yes, Ever)
I know “greatest musician ever” is a loaded phrase, but hear me out—this isn’t just nostalgia talking.
Avril didn’t just make catchy songs. She shifted culture.
Before her, mainstream pop was hyper-polished and overly choreographed. Then Avril shows up in a tank top, tie, and Converse, absolutely refusing to play the industry’s game—and suddenly a generation realized you could be loud, melodic, emotional, sarcastic, and authentic all at once.
1. She Created a Lane That Didn’t Exist Pop-punk existed, sure—but Avril mainstreamed it without sanding off the edges. Let Go wasn’t just an album; it was a permission slip for kids who didn’t fit neatly into pop or rock to exist loudly. She made angst radio-friendly without making it fake.
2. Timeless Songs, Not Trend Chasers “Complicated,” “Sk8er Boi,” “I’m With You”—these songs still hit because they’re built on melody, structure, and honest emotion, not production gimmicks. Strip them down to a guitar and they still work. That’s real musicianship.
3. Influence You Can’t Measure Look at the last 20 years of alternative pop and pop-punk revivals. So many artists trace their DNA straight back to Avril. She didn’t just inspire musicians—she influenced fashion, attitude, and the idea that women in rock didn’t need to be boxed in as “soft” or “manufactured.”
4. Authenticity Over Approval She never chased critical validation or trends. She made what she wanted, when she wanted, and survived an industry that chews artists up. Longevity matters. Staying power matters.
5. Emotional Range > Technical Flexing Sure, she’s not trying to be a prog-rock virtuoso—but greatness isn’t about showing off. It’s about making millions of people feel understood. Avril did that effortlessly, and still does.
So yeah—call it hyperbole if you want. But when you combine impact, influence, longevity, authenticity, and timeless songwriting, Avril Lavigne has a real case.
Not just a star. Not just a phase. A generational icon.
In the meantime "shes feeding the baby at home alone". In this time the song states she's become a single mother. Ethnicity of child is unspecified.
The fact shes at home suggests she's in receipt of benefits/welfare. Her life is going nowhere.
She turns up st his show. He now has access to high value females, his life is going great. A superstar
He's then probably emotionally coerced to taking her and her kid on, despite being affluent and successful and with access to better women.
[...]Its annoying that women have this level of entitlement and self-worth.
OP, even putting aside your weird racial reflection, your takes here are just bad. Your lack of comprehension seems to be motivated by some kind of bitterness toward women.
1. The "fact she's at home" doesn't remotely suggest she is "in receipt of benefits/welfare" -- this is completely normal for ANY new mother to take time off to focus on their child, particularly while the child is a BABY and likely breastfeeding.
My wife is very well-off, and she spent lots of time "at home alone" with our baby. Maybe you have never known the touch of a woman or anything about what may follow, but this is...pretty normal.
2. The lyrics in no way imply that the woman expects the punk rockstar ex to "take her and her kid on," let alone that this actually happens. (Which would make zero sense to any reasonable adult.) This is wild extrapolation, which combined with your broad conclusion about "women" just screams misogyny.
They date when they're young, she dumps him because hes not cool. He has baggy clothes. Really not that embarrasing or reasonable to finish the relationship over clothing style.
He subsequently becomes super successful and affluent in his music career.
In the meantime "shes feeding the baby at home alone". In this time the song states she's become a single mother. Ethnicity of child is unspecified.
The fact shes at home suggests she's in receipt of benefits/welfare. Her life is going nowhere.
She turns up st his show. He now has access to high value females, his life is going great. A superstar.
The song suggests hes currently dating.
He's then probably emotionally coerced to taking her and her kid on, despite being affluent and successful and with access to better women.
Hes only 5 years older. So still only in his 20s. Too young for this life after his financial successes.
Its annoying that women have this level of entitlement and self-worth.
No. Why would I get angry about a teen pop song written like two decades ago? Most people have a lot better things to do than think about that at all, you pathetic incel retard.
OP, can you please share a few of your favorite artists from the last 10 years? If someone has been tragically hoodwinked by Big Music shill Avril Lavigne and somehow managed to enjoy her music (thanks, Obama), who are some legitimate artists they might like?
Not only does Avril Lavigne rock (and everyone in this thread saying otherwise is a LTN incel chud), she was probably a better athlete in her prime than a majority of posters on this site, since she was twice named MVP of her town (boys) hockey league in Ontario.
Not only does Avril Lavigne rock (and everyone in this thread saying otherwise is a LTN incel chud), she was probably a better athlete in her prime than a majority of posters on this site, since she was twice named MVP of her town (boys) hockey league in Ontario.
Oh so she as well as being a no talent, music industry created, phony, narcissistic, cash cow recording artist; she is also a former trans athlete playing in the opposite gender’s hockey league. Thanks for the clarity. And I resent being called an incel just because I said her music sucks and that she’s clearly a fake.
OP, can you please share a few of your favorite artists from the last 10 years? If someone has been tragically hoodwinked by Big Music shill Avril Lavigne and somehow managed to enjoy her music (thanks, Obama), who are some legitimate artists they might like?
I’m not the OP, but I would like to substitute for him by saying there is almost nothing worth listening to that has been recorded in the last 10, 20, or even 30 years with the exception of Radiohead and arguably some of Coldplay’s stuff, though they are admittedly hit or miss.
This is a case of you imposing your point of view on the song.
There's no suggestion the superficial single mother and sk8er boi get back together.
The whole point is that the single mother made the wrong decision by judging him for the clothes he wore - and rather than taking a risk with someone exciting, she opted for the safe route - which didn't work out well.
It's a terrible song - almost like a children's nursery rhyme - but I could almost say the same for every pop song ever written. At least this one has coherent lyrics (even if they're godawful).
This is a case of you imposing your point of view on the song.
There's no suggestion the superficial single mother and sk8er boi get back together.
The whole point is that the single mother made the wrong decision by judging him for the clothes he wore - and rather than taking a risk with someone exciting, she opted for the safe route - which didn't work out well.
It's a terrible song - almost like a children's nursery rhyme - but I could almost say the same for every pop song ever written. At least this one has coherent lyrics (even if they're godawful).
At least you have the dignity to admit it’s a bad song. It is a song that could have been written by orangutans ripping out random words from Cosmopolitan and arbitrarily placing the magazine words next to each other. Better songs have been written by cavemen scribbling their nails on cave walls. I actually am wondering if it may be the worst song ever recorded by a major label artist. It’s got to be up there. Or down there rather.
OP, can you please share a few of your favorite artists from the last 10 years? If someone has been tragically hoodwinked by Big Music shill Avril Lavigne and somehow managed to enjoy her music (thanks, Obama), who are some legitimate artists they might like?
I’m not the OP, but I would like to substitute for him by saying there is almost nothing worth listening to that has been recorded in the last 10, 20, or even 30 years with the exception of Radiohead and arguably some of Coldplay’s stuff, though they are admittedly hit or miss.
It’s definitely one of the more stupid songs to ever become a hit. And Avril Lavigne has to be one of the least talented individuals in the history of popular recorded music. She can’t sing, her lyrics are banal and shallow, she is musically illiterate, she can’t play instruments at a performance level, her music videos suck, she can’t dance, her fashion is dreadful, she’s not very pretty, and as far as being some kind of representative of punk….get real. Her music has no authenticity or subversion compared to real punk music. Everything about her push by MTV and record companies was based on marketing to naive rebellious spoiled middle class teenagers. It was completely imaged based and the music was carefully designed by the engineers to appeal to that consumer demographic. Avril Lavigne was God awful. One of the five worst popular music acts of all time. She makes Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus sound like Maria Carey and Whitney Huston. Avril Lavigne sucks.
I haven't thought about this song in like 20 years. Never thought about it your way. This post is literally the meme about "making up a guy, convincing yourself he exists, and getting mad at him".
OP, can you please share a few of your favorite artists from the last 10 years? If someone has been tragically hoodwinked by Big Music shill Avril Lavigne and somehow managed to enjoy her music (thanks, Obama), who are some legitimate artists they might like?
I’m not the OP, but I would like to substitute for him by saying there is almost nothing worth listening to that has been recorded in the last 10, 20, or even 30 years with the exception of Radiohead and arguably some of Coldplay’s stuff, though they are admittedly hit or miss.
I was definitely looking for your input, my mistake; I thought you were the OP. You're probably trolling, but assuming you aren't, I'm genuinely baffled. If you were to say that what's been played on mainstream radio in the last 30 years isn't worth listening to, I wouldn't fully agree, but I could at least wrap my head around it. This just sounds to me like you're not that interested in discovering new music.
I’m not the OP, but I would like to substitute for him by saying there is almost nothing worth listening to that has been recorded in the last 10, 20, or even 30 years with the exception of Radiohead and arguably some of Coldplay’s stuff, though they are admittedly hit or miss.
I was definitely looking for your input, my mistake; I thought you were the OP. You're probably trolling, but assuming you aren't, I'm genuinely baffled. If you were to say that what's been played on mainstream radio in the last 30 years isn't worth listening to, I wouldn't fully agree, but I could at least wrap my head around it. This just sounds to me like you're not that interested in discovering new music.
No it doesn’t. Of course, I’ve allowed myself on occasion to be subjected to having to listen to new music. There is rarely any new song or artist that is even considered worthy of being called music. I did use the word “almost” in my post. Very rarely has anything decent been released besides Radiohead.
1995-2000 The emergence of alternative rock in the wake of grunge. All those bands like Counting Crows and Semisonic sucked. Greenday and Sublime are bad bands that at the least had some redeeming qualities but we’re not great. Pop music emerged with Brittany Spears, Christina Aguilera, and a horrific strand of boy bands. Nu metal and rap during this time were atrocious.
2000-2010 The unfortunate and forgettable emergence of Indie Rock, emo rock, and metal corps. Bad pop punk bands which included acts like the no talent Avril Lavigne of this thread. Kanye West sucks. Jay-Z sucks. Eminem was a joke. Nelly was a joke. Rap continued to be lousy. The downturn of quality country music and the emergence of the plague known as Taylor Swift. The White Stripes were passable but still not great. Arcade Fire and Kings of Leon sucked.
2010-2020 Stomp clap stupidity with Mumford and Sons and a bunch of other horrible bands like them. The slow disappearance of rock music. The emergence and stability of mumble rap. Horrible rappers like Drake and Nikki Manaj. The reemergence of bad pop stars like Cardi B and Ariana Grande. The Jonas Brothers and One Direction were dreadful. Bruno Mars was a joke. Imagine Dragons were atrocious. Adele was loud and obnoxious.
2020-Current. Bad pop bands like The Weekend. Billie Eilish and her ridiculous stupid whisper singing. Too many bad pop stars to name but don’t let me neglect the overwhelming empty stardom of Taylor Swift, who is almost as bad as Avril Lavigne, but just records more and has a cult like fan base for some mysterious reason.
The above of course is only scratching the surface. There’s a lot more horrible music acts of the 21st century so far than I listed, as well as whole genres. Radiohead has produced some very interesting music and as I mentioned some other bands like Coldplay, Sublime, Greenday, The White Stripes, and The Mars Volta we’re not great, but at least listenable and occasionally released something decent. But that is a microcosm in an otherwise barren music landscape where each song is mostly just produced as a cheap dance to it product that is easily disposable so it can be replaced by another bad song next week.
You may not agree with me, but as a musician I feel like I know what I’m talking about and have good taste. Most of the new music out is just poorly produced crap with no meaning other than to sell the image of the singer along with whatever products the singer is advertising. They’re not real songs, they’re just cheaply made consumer products.