otherplaces wrote:
I used to work for an airline and have traveled to many cities in the US. Out of college was offered a job in SF and a major startup that was making it (a house hold name name). SV and SF was a bunch of bros trying being psudo intellectual.
Also all those people talking about how bad SF is from a crime etc. it's Awful it is horrible compared to just 6 years ago. It was never perfect but 10 years ago you didn't have to worry about cars getting broken into near as much. The last 2 rental cars in the bay area I had had obviously been broken into. I thought it might be right wing propaganda but talking to my friends that live there no it's just the way of life. Those rich smart people have found out what happens when you destroy the middle class in a metro and their solutions aren't fixing it. Leaving only the richest and the most destitute. Unless middle use with bay and mountains there aren't many suburbs for middle class and lower class people to live and rent control and no policing means you get a high percentage criminals living in those places. Every place any direction of SF (other than downtown Oakland) is absolutely beautiful but I submit paying almost 2x for food than most other non-costal citys and 3x rent is not financially a smart idea. I was able to have a similar net worth to tech bros without every moving the the bay. Maybe I am just smart but my friends that live there are either intellectual douches that would run companies into the ground if hired (one actually has done that multiple times) as they company hop chasing that pre-ipo goodness only for them to get layed off or the company bought out and their shares delutted.
The average waiter in Europe is smarter than your average tech bro and most things. Also your average person in Boston is smarter (never lived there but based on anecdotes they seem smarter and the schools back that up). Standford is great! Med school in SF is great. Berkeley produces intellectual idiots and NIMBY Karen's
1) Housing is insanely expensive out here. We’re renting now and my wife’s company wants her here but having an affordable situation for the middle class is a huge issue. But it’s also extremely beautiful w a limited housing supply and tons of tech money. For an average house in some part of town you could live like a king in other parts of America .
2) the petty crime is way down the last 2 years . Coincided with when we moved here .
”By mid-2025, car break-ins reached a 22-year low.”
think car breakins are even down close 50% year over year. There is a new mayor but also some changes in laws and the ability to remove some homeless from the streets.
the way I view the city is can you afford it? 3 years ago you might not want to deal with all the crime but that has improved a lot. It's kind of interesting as long-term residents are still scarred and sometimes have to be reminded how much better it is.