I guess what bothers me, is that he admits some days his Achilles is still sore. I'm no elite athlete but I've had Achilles tendonitis 3 times during my competitive years and there is no way I could have ever trained through it. I had to wait until there was absolutely no pain at all before I could even train again.
Yeah, the first installment of his new YT series was filmed in October, but I agree that it's a bit concerning that he was still dealing with the injury to some extent at that stage. He does seem to be doing well since then, no setbacks that we know of.
I don't think he's ever run world senior xc. He ran world u20 and was crushed on a very tough course in Denmark, at a time he ran 3:31. The world course this year is much more his style, nothing too difficult, maybe some unseasonable humidity. He would have to be very fit but he could win in top shape.
He travelled to China last year for World Indoors, which he could have skipped like all of the other pretenders. He could have also skipped Worlds in Tokyo this year, but he turned up. Nothing is off the table for Jakob it seems.
Except maybe World XC. He is obviously not one to shy away from competition and racing, with one consistent exception -- World XC. Even when healthy he avoided it. It would be great to see how he would do in what Eyestone recently called on the NYC marathon broadcast the greatest distance race in the world.
Yeah I think that's the fair statement, however, I'll make a counter point by saying that since he ran U20 World XC in 2019, the last 5 years have been loaded with global championships (and pandemics), which isn't conducive to adding World XC to the schedule (especially in locations like Australia).
2020 - Covid 2021 - Olympics
2022 - WC
2023 - WC
2024 - Olympics
2025 - WC
2026 is the first year in a while where there are no global championships, making World XC more possible.
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Except maybe World XC. He is obviously not one to shy away from competition and racing, with one consistent exception -- World XC. Even when healthy he avoided it. It would be great to see how he would do in what Eyestone recently called on the NYC marathon broadcast the greatest distance race in the world.
Yeah I think that's the fair statement, however, I'll make a counter point by saying that since he ran U20 World XC in 2019, the last 5 years have been loaded with global championships (and pandemics), which isn't conducive to adding World XC to the schedule (especially in locations like Australia).
2020 - Covid 2021 - Olympics
2022 - WC
2023 - WC
2024 - Olympics
2025 - WC
2026 is the first year in a while where there are no global championships, making World XC more possible.
There is literally an indoor and outdoor track world championships this year, plus the outdoor European Championships
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Nobody has really connected the dots on Jakob's lower leg issues have they?
A guy whose only way of interacting with Jakob is through his screen has connected the dots guys. Jakob's team of physiotherapists and professional runners were just too dumb and clueless.
Good opportunity to test his body in race conditions without a lot on the line. And I don't mean Euro XC isn't worthwhile - I mean he has already won 10,000 XC golds. Nothing to be gained by winning or not winning another.
He is undefeated in Euro Cross. Lots on the line.
I disagree. When you have 8 euro XC titles already, it wouldn't mean much if he wouldn't win after coming back from injury.
Also most of his wins have been slam dunk wins. There is nothing to prove in Euro XC level.
I think it would be a mistake for Jakob to run Euro XC in december. Not enough recovery time and probably quite tough on the achilles. I think he should keep training at a moderate level over the winter and only ramp it up in the Spring.
A guy whose only way of interacting with Jakob is through his screen has connected the dots guys. Jakob's team of physiotherapists and professional runners were just too dumb and clueless.
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Come on -a guy must be allowed to front a well argumented reasoning around a topic without this name calling. -If you disagree on his reasoning you should concretely stress where he is wrong…
I get it that you probably think Salvitore is pretentious -but the world isn’t moving without some pretence. And by the way, one of the most pretentious in this sport is Jakob. And I think that for the most part is a good thing…
-If you disagree on his reasoning you should concretely stress where he is wrong…
Sure, why not, mr. second-worst-poster on this forum?
"All this guy does is rack up heavy volume in soft super shoes running anti-clockwise around a running track." No that's not all this guys does. He doesn't wear the soft super shoes all the time, nor does he run anti-clockwise on the track all the time. His easy runs are not on the track, not even half of his workouts are on the track, and his warm ups before the track workouts are often done clock wise.
"In his high-volume track phase (March/April) he is running approx 20km a day across two workouts" So what he does is in the ball park of what the vast majority of professional runners do? 15-20k of volume at an appropriate pace is what you would expect from basically every high mileage distance runner (so all of them). 99% of them perform those workouts in high stack soft shoes. They've been doing it for years now.
"I personally believe "super shoes" have been the cause of all his issue" cool, but there's thousands of runners using these shoes just as much or even more often than Jakob, how come we don't have an achilles epidemic in the professional scene?
"it's stunning to me that this guy and his team that are so scientific and meticulous around his training haven't figured this out yet" or maybe, just maybe, they've considered it, maybe even tested it, and deemed it irrelevant?
"Even small things like when he starts his reps - he basically does them from a standing start (slow walk in), always pushing off the left foot first" I mean this is just funny at this point, but no, Jakob's rep starts aren't any different from any other runner's rep starts. If you watch any video of Jakob starting a rep and think that there's something strange going on there you're just lying to yourself.
Running is hard on the achilles. Achilles injuries have existed long before any super shoes
Sure, why not, mr. second-worst-poster on this forum?
"All this guy does is rack up heavy volume in soft super shoes running anti-clockwise around a running track." No that's not all this guys does. He doesn't wear the soft super shoes all the time, nor does he run anti-clockwise on the track all the time. His easy runs are not on the track, not even half of his workouts are on the track, and his warm ups before the track workouts are often done clock wise.
"In his high-volume track phase (March/April) he is running approx 20km a day across two workouts" So what he does is in the ball park of what the vast majority of professional runners do? 15-20k of volume at an appropriate pace is what you would expect from basically every high mileage distance runner (so all of them). 99% of them perform those workouts in high stack soft shoes. They've been doing it for years now.
"I personally believe "super shoes" have been the cause of all his issue" cool, but there's thousands of runners using these shoes just as much or even more often than Jakob, how come we don't have an achilles epidemic in the professional scene?
"it's stunning to me that this guy and his team that are so scientific and meticulous around his training haven't figured this out yet" or maybe, just maybe, they've considered it, maybe even tested it, and deemed it irrelevant?
"Even small things like when he starts his reps - he basically does them from a standing start (slow walk in), always pushing off the left foot first" I mean this is just funny at this point, but no, Jakob's rep starts aren't any different from any other runner's rep starts. If you watch any video of Jakob starting a rep and think that there's something strange going on there you're just lying to yourself.
Running is hard on the achilles. Achilles injuries have existed long before any super shoes
You’re first sentence (“mr.second worst poster”) -it’s hard to return the compliment when you keep hiding behind multiple unregistered handles… So why do you do that -do you really think we will come after you just because you are calling us clowns, or worst, and so on..?
I also wonder why you get so angry -this is a running forum with differences in approaches and content and opinions. Do you really think your approach is the only God given right one..?
So to your points: Jakob has repeatedly stressed that warming up or running clock wise are something he really really doesn’t appreciate…
The rest of your points -I’m not an expert here, so I cannot criticise you…
Back to the “second worse” or even “worse” poster on the forum: I’m not here to post things everyone agree with. (Or not writing flawless English). I’m here to sometimes try out some outlier point of views, and sometimes just being a little more “hinged” and easy to agree with. -I hope I don’t ruin your sleep…
You have to love the fact that the number one distance track runner in the world competes.
So many Americans always shying away from competition.
Jacob runs XC and has even run half marathons. Sad to say US will likely send another "B" to world cross even when held in our own country. Is everyone afraid to travel to Florida?
You have to love the fact that the number one distance track runner in the world competes.
So many Americans always shying away from competition.
Jacob runs XC and has even run half marathons. Sad to say US will likely send another "B" to world cross even when held in our own country. Is everyone afraid to travel to Florida?
Injuries are part of the sport. Mantz and Fisher got hurt, so harsh to say shying away. Hoping Jakob wont “shy away” from World XC as usual, but if he runs World Indoors vs Hocker…no complaints. Doing neither deserves scrutiny, but few athletes will do both.
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You have to love the fact that the number one distance track runner in the world competes.
So many Americans always shying away from competition.
Jacob runs XC and has even run half marathons. Sad to say US will likely send another "B" to world cross even when held in our own country. Is everyone afraid to travel to Florida?
Injuries are part of the sport. Mantz and Fisher got hurt, so harsh to say shying away. Hoping Jakob wont “shy away” from World XC as usual, but if he runs World Indoors vs Hocker…no complaints. Doing neither deserves scrutiny, but few athletes will do both.
Well Fisher will likely do neither. When has he ever raced World XC or World Indoors? Glad Hocker is serious on World Indoors. If Jakob does it, it will make the championship very interesting.
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Well Fisher will likely do neither. When has he ever raced World XC or World Indoors? Glad Hocker is serious on World Indoors. If Jakob does it, it will make the championship very interesting.
Fisher doing a possibly tactical NYC Half vs a pretty good but not topnotch field would be a little unsatisfying. Barcelona Half vs. the biggest names and trying to hit sub-58 id like more. World Indoors 3k tho is best i agree