The death zone is only Camp 4 to summit. The wake up time due to queues has been tugged but many fat, injured, unfit Homer Simpsons have summited with the right weather window. You will never look at Everest the same again if you've seen this..... Everest: Beyond the Limit (TV Series 2006–2009) IMDb
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Everest is an ordeal because the Nepalese government sees it as a cash cow and sell a reckless number of permits. The weather window for Everest is very short, which leads to very large groups converging on the mountain at the same time.
There are at least a dozen similar high altitude peaks in the area that are just as challenging as Everest but have a fraction of the traffic. The Chinese do a very good job of regulating mountaineering in the Himalayas from north side of the Himalayas. But the Nepalese government is very corrupt and takes people's money knowing that they are overcrowding the mountain and will cause casualties.
Also, in the world of mountaineering, Everest is kind of the Rock N Roll Marathon of mountaineering. It really is not a very difficult ascent compared to other mountains and people pay $60k+ to do it with oxygen and sherpas carrying everything. I have heard that peaks like Denali and Aconcagua are actually much more technical than Everest and real mountaineers prefer a challenging ascent over just trying to manage the extreme high altitude of a 25k plus peak. It is kind of the difference between running a really fast marathon and running a 100 miler.
Everest is an ordeal because the Nepalese government sees it as a cash cow and sell a reckless number of permits. The weather window for Everest is very short, which leads to very large groups converging on the mountain at the same time.
There are at least a dozen similar high altitude peaks in the area that are just as challenging as Everest but have a fraction of the traffic. The Chinese do a very good job of regulating mountaineering in the Himalayas from north side of the Himalayas. But the Nepalese government is very corrupt and takes people's money knowing that they are overcrowding the mountain and will cause casualties.
Also, in the world of mountaineering, Everest is kind of the Rock N Roll Marathon of mountaineering. It really is not a very difficult ascent compared to other mountains and people pay $60k+ to do it with oxygen and sherpas carrying everything. I have heard that peaks like Denali and Aconcagua are actually much more technical than Everest and real mountaineers prefer a challenging ascent over just trying to manage the extreme high altitude of a 25k plus peak. It is kind of the difference between running a really fast marathon and running a 100 miler.
Nepalese govt just got overthrown and looks like it will now be democratic in nature. But they will still need the money from Everest tourism, about the only money they get from outside Nepal.
Everest is an ordeal because the Nepalese government sees it as a cash cow and sell a reckless number of permits. The weather window for Everest is very short, which leads to very large groups converging on the mountain at the same time.
There are at least a dozen similar high altitude peaks in the area that are just as challenging as Everest but have a fraction of the traffic. The Chinese do a very good job of regulating mountaineering in the Himalayas from north side of the Himalayas. But the Nepalese government is very corrupt and takes people's money knowing that they are overcrowding the mountain and will cause casualties.
Also, in the world of mountaineering, Everest is kind of the Rock N Roll Marathon of mountaineering. It really is not a very difficult ascent compared to other mountains and people pay $60k+ to do it with oxygen and sherpas carrying everything. I have heard that peaks like Denali and Aconcagua are actually much more technical than Everest and real mountaineers prefer a challenging ascent over just trying to manage the extreme high altitude of a 25k plus peak. It is kind of the difference between running a really fast marathon and running a 100 miler.
Nepalese govt just got overthrown and looks like it will now be democratic in nature. But they will still need the money from Everest tourism, about the only money they get from outside Nepal.
As with anything, the key is finding the perfect price point. The ideal situation is to find an amount where you have everyone who can pay it will and no one on a waiting list or desiring it. It appears right not $75K is too low as the demand for permits is still greater than the availability.
There's really no exaggeration. Everest is a cool achievement because it's the highest evolution on earth. But if you've ever done a google search on mountain climbing you know that there are numerous mountains that are more challenging and dangerous than Everest. I'm pretty sure Everest isn't even the most challenging climb in the Himalayas.
Nepalese govt just got overthrown and looks like it will now be democratic in nature. But they will still need the money from Everest tourism, about the only money they get from outside Nepal.
As with anything, the key is finding the perfect price point. The ideal situation is to find an amount where you have everyone who can pay it will and no one on a waiting list or desiring it. It appears right not $75K is too low as the demand for permits is still greater than the availability.
you two seriously need to find a room together QUICKLY
it's only as big a deal as you make it to be. why don't you message nick simmons to get a runner's perspective on it instead of wasting space on this site?
You forgot to add in the other variable of how altitude affects the body. Ascend to quickly without proper acclimatization and you die.
why not just use EPO? Blood doping isn't cheating to climb a mountain. You can't be DQd
Great comment. Unfortunately, Kilian Jornet proved you can by DQd in the public eye even when you are taking EPO. Killian's dq was tied to him accidentally forgetting to go to the top of Everest but still he had a good story. (Even though one of my main sponsors is a GPS watch company, I forget to turn on my watch if it isn't on Strava it isn't real, and bonus a lot of Strava efforts are fake as well...
First off it's not a big deal at all. It's more of a meaningless sociopathic ego driven climb even if very difficult. Many hundreds do it every year despite the roughly 1% risk of death to themselves and their sherpas. I'm someone that routinely goes up to 10,000 to 11,000 feet to run and mountain bike and it feels no different to me than sea level. The highest I've been is a relatively moderate elevation of 15,800 feet at Ferrocarrill Central Andino. Walking around at that altitude I had a 91% O2 sat and I didn't notice the lower O2. However it felt like I had a 80 lb pack on just jogging up a small hill. Add 10,000 feet to that and even the top 1% at altitude genetically like me is going to really feel it. The reality is that those that perform well at high altitude do that partially because of their respiratory drive (it's not solely from a genetic induced shift in deoxygenation via 2,3 DPG). Diamox will also increase respiratory drive. The problem with that is why you function better at altitude, you're blowing off C02 to keep your oxygen up. At extreme elevations this will cause significant vasoconstriction to small blood vessels in your brain more than what someone not functioning as well at altitude/ prone to AMS. This causes brain damage that isn't felt at the time. This causes shrinking gray matter and damaged white matter and leads to flat effect and loss of spontaneity (plus other less obvious cognitive impairments). A few decades back I eat dinner at the same table of Dr. 3rd Person to summit Everest solo/ high altitude physician. Not to be mean but it was clear to me he had marked changes in social interactions from prolonged high altitude exposure. I've also worked with Apa Sherpa roughly 20 years ago. He was kind enough to help interpret Nepalese to English for me a few times before heading back to climb Everest again. While he had no obvious impairment in interactions, he had lost a good friend and fellow sherpa standing next to him when an avalanche just missed him. It's one thing to risk your own life but I don't have enough sociopathic traits to ever put a sherpa at risk of losing theirs. Apa had moved to the U.S. so his children wouldn't have to risk their lives on the mountain guiding others that thought summiting Everest meant something. I personally view having summiting Everest on your resume as a negative thing. The best outcome is you just get brain damage accomplishing it and you're not responsible for someone else's death.
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Everest is an ordeal because the Nepalese government sees it as a cash cow and sell a reckless number of permits. The weather window for Everest is very short, which leads to very large groups converging on the mountain at the same time.
There are at least a dozen similar high altitude peaks in the area that are just as challenging as Everest but have a fraction of the traffic. The Chinese do a very good job of regulating mountaineering in the Himalayas from north side of the Himalayas. But the Nepalese government is very corrupt and takes people's money knowing that they are overcrowding the mountain and will cause casualties.
Also, in the world of mountaineering, Everest is kind of the Rock N Roll Marathon of mountaineering. It really is not a very difficult ascent compared to other mountains and people pay $60k+ to do it with oxygen and sherpas carrying everything. I have heard that peaks like Denali and Aconcagua are actually much more technical than Everest and real mountaineers prefer a challenging ascent over just trying to manage the extreme high altitude of a 25k plus peak. It is kind of the difference between running a really fast marathon and running a 100 miler.
You've been given very bad intel if you think Aconcagua is technical in any sense or form. You lost credibility immediately with that, and as with most posters here on this forum, I have a feeling that you know only what you've read- ie no actual real world experience with anything over a handful of "14'ers" in the Rockies. Denali is a bit more technically challenging than Aconcagua, but certainly not by much. The hard part about Denali is the extreme cold. Regarding Everest, I suppose it depends on what outfitter you choose, but I can assure you that Sherpas do not "carry everything". The fixed ropes and tents are put up at the beginning of the season are laid out by the Sherpas, and supplies are brought to base camp by yaks and Sherpas; but no one is carrying your oxygen, stove, or backpack for you up the mountain. That's on you. Regarding it not "being a difficult ascent" compared to other mountains, it seems you've also been given bad information here as well. The altitude from around 24k and higher makes it specifically challenging on ANY peak above 20k. Life above 6000m changes drastically. Any type of lung rot (think about the feeling you have in your chest after running your first hard indoor race of the season) you get on the mountain doesn't go away. GI bugs from living in close quarters and sharing most everything is also another tenet that can make it hard. It's not so easy to disrobe 4 layers roped in on the side of a mountain when you've got diarrhea.
The actual distance you travel when you climb Everest is about 13 miles. I get that it's cold and uphill, but ultimately it's basically just a half-marathon in extremely crappy conditions.
Why all the massive exaggeration about the challenge?
