People called me ridiculous for saying doping is very common in colllege

nonsense, if the Earth was spherical everyone would be running a sub 4 mile. And there would be no hills.

A lot of you all are horribly ignorant when it comes to drug use amongst youth.

A guy on my high school football team was popped for steroids. I knew of multiple people in college who took them. My buddy was in the Navy and he was on them - it is rampant in the military. And this was 20 years ago.

Go to literally any commercial gym in the nation and I guarantee you’ll find a handful of people on steroids there. I worked at a few and knew some of the trainers that took them.

You think these are all just doctor prescribed? Not to mention that TRT is laughably easy to get diagnosed for these days, and not just among the 40+ crowd….Peptides, SARMs, etc. they can all be acquired without much trouble these days.

You're naive to think this. I'm a D1 coach and have long thought it was rampant. They only time these athletes get tested are at Nationals and if they're world level - WADA is testing them. There isn't a conference out there that is doing blood tests to check hematocrit levels to see if any is micro dosing EPO. I guarantee it's happening and a lot of it. There is no way to uncover it outside of WADA taking over NCAA testing.

Motive and opportunity. That is the whole story.

Look at any big-box gym. Plenty of lifters use TRT, steroids, or SARMs for nothing more than looks. No scholarships. No prize money. If that happens with zero upside, why would college athletes with scholarships, roster spots, NIL, and pro doors stay immune?

The expected value is simple. If you think you cannot contend clean, the best-case outcome of using is a career jump, the worst case is a ban. Some will take that bet, especially considering how infrequent testing is and how quickly some PEDs clear the system.

This does not mean everyone is dirty. It means incentives are strong, opportunities are real, and human nature is consistent. Gym culture shows there is demand even without stakes. Add stakes, expect more, not less.

If you want less doping, change the math. Make testing feel certain, raise the real cost of a positive, and build credible clean paths to the same rewards.

Getting your kid on HGH like Messi is the way. Size matters!

I’m not on my account right now, EPO Sedjati, but I’m competing D1 on the west coast and it is widely known that people are doing stuff. And frankly it doesn’t upset me. I get it, money is on the line and the system enables it. Ask anybody in the NCAA if they really want to dope and the answer is no, but there’s no reward for finishing last place. If doping could be caught 99% of the time, then nobody would have issues not doing it.

I just love the old heads and highschoolers who act like they know everything. You know nothing. Our sport is setup so that only if you are apart of it do you know what’s going on. We know our own. The amount of stuff I have learned since being in college is absurd. All those favorite runners of yours, the guys competing for medals. And it’s not what everyone thinks either. Doping is extremely easy. Peptides do work, EPO really works, and thyroid meds are making the rounds of the NCAA currently. If you have mild skill at navigating the web you can find EPO suppliers. Peptides can just be googled.

Stop deflecting Myron. You know who’s more prone to cheat. Which is why tou hiked your skirt, jumped on a chair, and started screaming. 🥸

And ten years after their running career fizzles out, they’ll be wondering why they developed random illnesses. No thanks.

Potentially. But EPO is actually quite safe from what I’ve heard. The lack of long term studies on peptides though is concerning. But nothing about what we do is healthy. I just ripped a 1000m specific workout with my 800 guys yesterday and broke out in feverish symptoms during class.

I’m not even sure why EPO is needed when testosterone already causes erythropoiesis and significantly increases hematocrit. Go look at TRT forums and you have plenty of older men who have to donate blood monthly to keep their hematocrit from climbing towards 60. Testosterone is safe, extremely cheap and easy to source, plus will also help recovery and increase lean body mass while reducing fat. Using EPO on top of it seems redundant

Yeah, his falling over himself to screech about white (in all caps) athletes gives him away - in a lot of ways. No one is surprised there’s some cheating going on. Look at the wacky Indian dude who was popped for EPO a few months back. He was surely not the only collegiate on the sauce. They are out there and regular testing must be implemented across the board.

Roping Langon into this is so random, but so random to not be true? I’d be $hitting myself if my name was brought into this mess.

what college

Testing is mostly window dressing. Doping remains ahead of testing and has done so for decades now. The numbers doping are known to far exceed those caught. Where there are incentives to dope it will be practiced.

I drug the living daylights out of my D1 runners. Why do you think I am so successful (and angry)

Yes. A big problem is with people like Tuohy, Slagowski, and other who do it to get a scholarship.

Yep - I'm "parroting" WADA and other antidoping experts. "Only the dumb and the careless get caught".

The bigger problem is those who simply do it to "succeed". That's most of them.