I don't think Rose ever bet on a Reds game. A convicted murderer like Rae Carruth has a better chance of being associated with MLB than a convicted sports bettor. You can never come back from being a sports bettor.
But new documents obtained by Outside the Lines indicate Rose bet extensively on baseball -- and on the Cincinnati Reds -- as he racked up the last hits of a record-smashing career in 1986.
•In the time covered in the notebook, from March through July, Rose bet on at least one MLB team on 30 different days. It's impossible to count the exact number of times he bet on baseball games because not every day's entries are legible. • But on 21 of the days it's clear he bet on baseball, he gambled on the Reds, including on games in which he played.
New documents obtained by Outside the Lines indicate Rose bet extensively on baseball -- and on the Reds -- as he racked up the last hits of a record-smashing career in 1986.
So on brand for this administration. As opposed to, say, investigating insider trading in Congress - on both sides of the aisle - with anything approaching the vigor that they are doubtlessly bringing to this investigation
He's living rent-free in your head, isn't he?
You do realize most of the people at the FBI are career law enforcement. The game that drew everyone's attention happened in 2023 - when Biden was president. This case is years in the making.
Yes the years that these investigations were going on were during Brandon's administration. Watch tRump take the credit for this.
I don't think Rose ever bet on a Reds game. A convicted murderer like Rae Carruth has a better chance of being associated with MLB than a convicted sports bettor. You can never come back from being a sports bettor.
But new documents obtained by Outside the Lines indicate Rose bet extensively on baseball -- and on the Cincinnati Reds -- as he racked up the last hits of a record-smashing career in 1986.
•In the time covered in the notebook, from March through July, Rose bet on at least one MLB team on 30 different days. It's impossible to count the exact number of times he bet on baseball games because not every day's entries are legible. • But on 21 of the days it's clear he bet on baseball, he gambled on the Reds, including on games in which he played.
Four different crime families are involved in this case. My guess is that Billups is a degenerate gambler who went in debt to the mafia. The amount he was being paid for the poker game seems like chump change... not worth getting kicked out of the hall of fame and never working in the NBA again.
But if he was in trouble with the mafia, he might do almost anything to get out.
Yeah for now Billups isn't implicated in anything directly NBA related, but he was basically a hack for the mafia which has been known to dabble in sports betting every now and then over the course of history. It's hard to believe that if he was willing to do this for them with respect to poker, that there isn't a strong possibility it extended into "other" things.
Which is why NBA rules around anything gambling related for players/coaches etc are so strict - even if comically it's now the other way around with the public because you know, they make more and more money off that too.
And now Billups has been implicated in NBA related conduct. His coaching career just ended.
”Also, though Billups was not named in the sports betting indictment, the description of a co-conspirator who allegedly told a bettor that a number of Trail Blazers players would miss a March 2023 game had a playing and coaching career that matches Billups.”
Trail Blazers coach Chauncey Billups and Heat guard Terry Rozier have been arrested as part of a pair of investigations related to illegal sports betting and rigged poker games backed by the Mafia, authorities announced.
So on brand for this administration. As opposed to, say, investigating insider trading in Congress - on both sides of the aisle - with anything approaching the vigor that they are doubtlessly bringing to this investigation
insider trading by congress isn't illegal...so how would they go after that. Every time a bill comes up to make it illegal it gets defeated. You got a lot of upvotes but all that proves is people don't know the law.
Rozier is in the middle of a 4 yr / 90 million contract where all he has to do is show up, play a kids game, and spend a little time making public appearances (press conferences, etc). lol
i wonder how much debt rozier/billups/jones have to even think this is a good idea.
One area of the so called pandemic that does not get a lot of attention is organized crime exploiting and profiting from all aspects of Covid-19 - and why not ? The whole effing thing was built on government fraud and corporate bloodsucking. Easy to jump on the bandwagon when you look like just another passenger. ********
Organized groups of individuals working together have defrauded public programs, as was evident during the COVID-19 pandemic. Although the full extent of pandemic relief fraud is not known, estimates from some of the largest pandemic relief programs put losses around $300 billion.
According to GAO’s analysis of Department of Justice public statements and court documentation from March 2020 through December 2024, 46 percent of the 1,875 defendants convicted of pandemic-fraud-related offenses with final charges recorded had conspiracy charges, suggesting involvement of an organized group.
Organized fraud groups that target government programs generally fall into three types and vary in size, structure, and participants. The types are (1) organized criminal enterprises, (2) groups organized around a program, and (3) opportunistically organized groups.
So on brand for this administration. As opposed to, say, investigating insider trading in Congress - on both sides of the aisle - with anything approaching the vigor that they are doubtlessly bringing to this investigation
as others have said not illegal for congress no matter the administration
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Yeah for now Billups isn't implicated in anything directly NBA related, but he was basically a hack for the mafia which has been known to dabble in sports betting every now and then over the course of history. It's hard to believe that if he was willing to do this for them with respect to poker, that there isn't a strong possibility it extended into "other" things.
Which is why NBA rules around anything gambling related for players/coaches etc are so strict - even if comically it's now the other way around with the public because you know, they make more and more money off that too.
And now Billups has been implicated in NBA related conduct. His coaching career just ended.
”Also, though Billups was not named in the sports betting indictment, the description of a co-conspirator who allegedly told a bettor that a number of Trail Blazers players would miss a March 2023 game had a playing and coaching career that matches Billups.”
Unbelievable. That guy was making 5 million bucks a season to be absolute s--t at his job, and now he's lost that forever. But the good news is now he can be on one of the ex-player podcasts telling all the cool stories and using inappropriate words. Nice.
And now Billups has been implicated in NBA related conduct. His coaching career just ended.
”Also, though Billups was not named in the sports betting indictment, the description of a co-conspirator who allegedly told a bettor that a number of Trail Blazers players would miss a March 2023 game had a playing and coaching career that matches Billups.”
Unbelievable. That guy was making 5 million bucks a season to be absolute s--t at his job, and now he's lost that forever. But the good news is now he can be on one of the ex-player podcasts telling all the cool stories and using inappropriate words. Nice.
This may get very very bad for the NBA. My dad was on the Board of Trustees at BC in the late 70s and that scandal got very bad for the school. This could be much worse.
Billups might be fine - he's rich and a first time "offender". Also just played in an illegal poker ring, not any sports betting stuff. Rozier might be f*cked
Rozier is done permanently. He will never be associated with the NBA again. Billups may or may not have been involved in sports betting. If he has been involved in sports betting, he too will never be associated with the NBA again. Likely they are both done with the NBA forever.
Are we really trusting anything that THIS FBI finds?
Unbelievable. That guy was making 5 million bucks a season to be absolute s--t at his job, and now he's lost that forever. But the good news is now he can be on one of the ex-player podcasts telling all the cool stories and using inappropriate words. Nice.
This may get very very bad for the NBA. My dad was on the Board of Trustees at BC in the late 70s and that scandal got very bad for the school. This could be much worse.
Billups will never coach again in the league.
Rozier will never play again in the league.
More to follow.
Yeah if you listen to the Zach Lowe podcast on spotify he devotes the first 25 or so min to this and basically implies this is part of a much bigger conspiracy than just Rozier wanting to give his homies a heads up to win a few prop bets.